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Topic Title: Place cursor in "to" field in Outlook version 2007
Topic Summary: New Outlook keyboard shortcuts
Created On: 09/08/2020 06:20 PM
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 Place cursor in "to" field in Outlook version 2007   - KBC - 09/08/2020 06:20 PM  
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I recently upgraded from a very old version of Outlook and a very old PC to a new PC and office 365. A lot of my keyboard shortcuts don't work anymore. So I'm going through trying to find the new ones. This one is challenging… I used to say "go to to Field" and it would put the cursor in the "to field" of any email when the cursor was elsewhere in the email. I've tried a million things and can't seem to get it there. Any help? Thank you so much!

 

 09/08/2020 08:34 PM
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You are correct. You can click on the buttons but no longer click into the fields. Of course when you create a new email message, your cursor is already in the To field so it might be assumed that all you need to do is dictate the addressee. We don't have an answer for you but we can show you how we deal with this in KnowBrainer 2017. 

 

If we are creating a new message, we begin by saying Email <dictation> which will create a new email, type whatever name we wish to message, move the cursor to the subject time and even lock on Title Case.  Example: If we have emailed Donald Trump in the past and who hasn't, we can say Email <Donald Trump> to create a new email, type Donald Trump into the To field (where Outlook will make its best guess to complete the address) and move the cursor to the Subject field. While we are in the middle of our message, we can say CC <Eric Trump> to add Eric Trump to the CC field and move our cursor back into the message where we left off. If we don't want Donald to know that we are also sending a copy of this message to Ivanka Trump, we can say BCC <Ivanka>. In this particular case, we don't need to include Ivanka's last name because how many Ivankas do we even know. Don't forget that you can replace the contents of the Subject field anytime by saying something like Subject <Who's Your Draft Dodging Daddy> (Donald loves a good joke. He even said that). Also note how everything in the Subject field also appears in Title Case. Feel free to copy the following KnowBrainer Advanced Scripting command to get started. You can say Email <anyone> to create a new E-mail to anyone Outlook is familiar with and move the cursor into the Subject field:

 

Name: Email <dictation>

 

Sub Main
SendKeys "^+m"
Wait 0.5
SendKeys ListVar1
Wait 0.5
SendKeys "~"
Wait 0.5
SendKeys "%u"
Wait 0.5
HeardWord "\caps-on"
End Sub

 

 

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 09/08/2020 11:42 PM
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I'm using Outlook 2019, and "go to to field" works fine.

But there is a problem with the command that may give the impression that it is not working. (I'm not sure whether the source of the problem is Outlook, Dragon, how the two programs interact, or something else.) After issuing the command, Outlook gives no visual indication - or at least, Outlook gives extremely subtle visual indication - that the "To" field has focus.

If you start dictating or typing, you will discover that the "To" field is actually active.


Another possibility: Are you using the browser-based version of Outlook?
 09/10/2020 10:34 AM
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Thanks Alan. I'm not in the browser-based version but it is so totally strange. There's even an_underneath the "to" so I know that there is a command somehow. I've searched and searched online and nothing. Inside your Dragon commands, when you say go to to Field, can you see what the keyboard step-by-step's are by chance?

Lunis, this is for what I reply to someone so the cursor is automatically in the body. And then I need to add somebody in the to field to cc them.

If helpful, I purchased Dragon from you guys but I don't use KnowBrainer.

 09/10/2020 02:50 PM
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Unfortunately, the hotkey to the To field only opens the address book which will more likely get in your way. You can check this out by saying press alt t or press alt tango.

The reason we built KnowBrainer and VerbalBasic II is because of Dragon's limitations but when it comes to your question, we are running into the same brick wall which seems to be new. Having said that, you you can get around this problem by creating your own commands. This is arguably Dragon's greatest strength. This would be clumsy but you could create a macro that temporarily moves the cursor to the Subject field by pressing {Alt+u} and presses {Shift+Tab 2} to move to the To field. 



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There's even an_underneath the "to" so I know that there is a command somehow. I've searched and searched online and nothing. Inside your Dragon commands, when you say go to to Field, can you see what the keyboard step-by-step's are by chance?



In Outlook 2019, the underlined character for the "To..." field is the first period in ..., which means the hotkey is "Alt + period". But pressing the hotkey does not jump to the "To" field. Instead, it is equivalent to clicking on the "To" button, which brings up "Select Names" dialog box.

You can navigate to the To field by saying "press Alt Uniform" (navigate to the Subject field), and then say "press Shift Tab" three times (if the BCC field is visible), or twice (if the BCC field is not showing). It's effort, but it works.

To reiterate. When you say "go to to field," does Dragon recognize it as a command? What happens if you hold down the Ctrl key as you say it, which forces Dragon to recognize an utterance as a command.

And if the is command is recognized, what happens if you start talking? Where does Dragon deposit the text?
 09/10/2020 08:46 PM
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Maybe you could also program a few scripts like so:
Goto Subject -> "Sendkeys alt-u" (then you know where you are)
goto receiver -> "SendKeys {shift-tab 3}"
and so on.


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 09/10/2020 09:03 PM
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Saying "Go to to" works for me.
 09/11/2020 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by: Grandslam Saying "Go to to" works for me.


Good find! Certainly better than the workarounds we were all suggesting. Now to create some Advance Scripting commands using HeardWord to make it easier to have a command I actually remember.

 09/11/2020 01:37 PM
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Thanks all of you. Unfortunately, go to to doesn't work either. I've tried it holding the control key down and Dragon does reckon both as commands. If I keep talking, it deposits the text wherever the cursor happens to be, in this case it's almost always in the body field already. So I select an email, up to "reply" to it start typing some text and then add my head of sales to the to field. That's what I want to do. But it won't let me get to the to field to add a new person's name there. So totally bizarre. And frustrating! I'll try the workarounds with some commands for now. I'm sure there's an answer here it's driving me crazy.
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You could try to create a new profile and see what happens with the "go to to field" command. It only takes five minutes to make a new profile, so it wouldn't a big time investment.



 09/13/2020 02:29 PM
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Thanks for continuing to think on it Alan, still no dice with the new profile.
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