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Topic Title: Question About Word Processors
Topic Summary: Which word processors are compatible with DNS v15.3?
Created On: 01/05/2021 12:34 PM
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 Question About Word Processors   - gcarson - 01/05/2021 12:34 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - Lunis Orcutt - 01/05/2021 12:56 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - gcarson - 01/05/2021 01:46 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - Lunis Orcutt - 01/05/2021 02:30 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - dilligence - 01/05/2021 09:05 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - wristofdoom - 04/17/2021 02:20 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - Scribe - 04/17/2021 03:04 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - Allan H. - 09/18/2021 06:58 AM  
 Question About Word Processors   - kcshaw - 01/05/2021 11:46 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - wristofdoom - 04/17/2021 03:47 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - dilligence - 04/17/2021 05:57 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - Lunis Orcutt - 04/17/2021 07:21 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - dilligence - 04/17/2021 07:52 PM  
 Question About Word Processors   - Lunis Orcutt - 04/18/2021 02:06 PM  
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gcarson
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Hello

I need a new word processor but skimming through the forum gave me the impression that nothing really works all that well with Dragon right now.

I don't want to subscribe to Office 365. Seems like a blatant ripoff for one thing, not to mention that I don't need the full Office suite. I did notice, however, that you can still buy standalone versions of Office 2019 for a decent price.

Is DNS v15.3 compatible and stable with Word 2019? My needs are pretty simple. I produce long manuscripts (70K words or longer), text only, with no special formatting except centered chapter titles, double-spacing, full justification, very basic stuff like that.

Are there any other word processors that work with 15.3? Also, could I use DragonCapture to dictate directly into my current word processor, LibreOffice Writer, which is totally incompatible with DNS?

Thanks for any advice.



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Lunis Orcutt
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Originally posted by: gcarson

1. Is DNS v15.3 compatible and stable with Word 2019?

2. Are there any other word processors that work with 15.3? Also,

3. Could I use DragonCapture to dictate directly into my current word processor, LibreOffice Writer, which is totally incompatible with DNS?

 



1. Not unless you update to Ver. 15.61 which additionally includes our Installation/User Guide (including details on fixing 3 dozen sandtraps) and lots of other perks. Note that because of the complexity involved, we are charging a $20 service fee

2. Standalone WordPerfect X9 and possibly WordPerfect XX. You already have DragonPad and WordPad but they are not as richly featured.

3. DragonCapture will work in anything but is not ideally suited to long documents. While you will likely find DragonCapture handy for all kinds of work, like dictating into your favorite browser's address field, you should only consider a Dragon friendly word processor for your extensive dictation work. Select-&-Say is of the utmost importance and only works in Dragon friendly environments. We would additionally recommend KnowBrainer 2017 because of time-saving commands; many which are written specifically for writers.

 

RECOMMENDATION: Purchase a local installation of Microsoft Word and forget about the other choices. Professionals choose professional tools and while some free Select-&-Say word processors will work, we suspect you are only thinking about dictation. A major part the writing equation consists of editing and maneuvering commands. Dragon only command supports Microsoft Word and WordPerfect. However, the problem with WordPerfect is that Corel frequently introduces a new release that is never Dragon friendly.



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Thanks. I'd like to use a local installation of Word, but I thought this was no longer available (??)



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Check Microsoft Wird 2019 and you have any doubts, use PayPal to guarantee your purchase. We cannot assure you that this offer is not pirated but we believe you can also find local Microsoft Word installations on the manufacturer website. All you have to do is Google



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Alternatively you can download Apache Open Office 4.1.6 which fully supports Dragon Select-and-Say control (but not voice Menu/Button etc. control).

It's completely free and it does not appear to have the annoying "jumping cursor" problem that MS Word has (well not as much anyway).

 

Make sure though to download the correct version (the latest versions don't support Dragon anymore):

 

 



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So am I understanding correctly that a local version of Microsoft Word 2019 works better with Dragon than the Microsoft office 365 version?

Does Microsoft Word 2019 not have the annoying jump/skip issue?



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Originally posted by: wristofdoom So am I understanding correctly that a local version of Microsoft Word 2019 works better with Dragon than the Microsoft office 365 version? Does Microsoft Word 2019 not have the annoying jump/skip issue?

 

I use Word 2019 (I must use a recent version of word for the freelance work that I do). I have Dragon 15.61, and it gives Word the jitters. I edit 8 to 12 hours per day and it is NOT fun.



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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt
Originally posted by: gcarson

2. Standalone WordPerfect X9 and possibly WordPerfect XX. Yo

 

 

Lunis,

I didn't know this still existed! thanks for the tip.

Cheers,

Allan H

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LibreOffice Writer (version 6.4.7) works fine with Dragon Pro (v15.30) for me -- you just have to remember to install the 32 bit version of LibreOffice, not 64 bit. I don't do anything complicated with it, and use very few commands, so there may be issues I don't notice. Last time I tried the 64 bit version there were annoying issues with trying to select & edit (at the very least), tho as I recall just straight dictation was functioning. But it was annoying enough that I rapidly went back to 32 bit even with my relatively limited requirements. I'm not aware of the 32 bit version of LibreOffice missing anything significant or having significant performance issues for typical users, so the trade "down" is probably a zero loss from that point of view.
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I tried using LibreOffice Writer (version 6.4.7, 32-bit) and Open Office 4.1.6 which are the older versions that supposedly support full Select-and-Say functionality.


But they don't for me. I dictate some text, and then I say something like "Correct {my text}" or "Select {my text}", and nothing happens.


In Libreoffice, if I say the command "selects last word" then the Dragon spell window comes on for the selected text. But this is a far cry from selecting the word or phrase that I want to correct which may be very far away from my cursor.


Did you have to do anything special with these versions of LibreOffice or OpenOffice? Or did they just work out-of-the-box?

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Not sure why it won't work on your system. Works perfectly on mine:

 

 

 



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WristofDoom,

These 2 utilities are not Dragon friendly out of the box. They each need a hack which is detailed in previous posts. We probably should've made a note in the Quick Tips but we only use Microsoft Word because it is relatively inexpensive and includes much more Dragon and KnowBrainer support.

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No hacks. This specific Open Office version has always worked out of the box on my system. Tested with both DPG and DPI.



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We just tested OpenOffice Writer Ver. 4.1.8 and Ver. 4.1.9 (latest release). Ver. 4.1.6 may be Dragon friendly but neither of the 2 latest versions are natively Dragon friendly; no Select-&-Say no Dragonbar green •. Because we only use OpenOffice for test purposes, we prefer keeping it non-Dragon friendly.



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