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Topic Title: Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG
Topic Summary: This is unbelievable
Created On: 05/07/2020 07:26 AM
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 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - stevember - 05/07/2020 07:26 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - kkkwj - 05/08/2020 08:36 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - stevember - 05/09/2020 07:17 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Zig - 05/09/2020 12:30 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Grandslam - 05/09/2020 08:44 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - xxtraloud - 05/12/2020 02:27 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Anandits - 05/12/2020 05:53 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Anandits - 05/16/2020 11:22 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - marc_vie - 05/17/2020 03:55 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - SpeechWare - 05/18/2020 06:42 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 07/24/2020 07:47 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 10/03/2020 10:53 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - marc_vie - 05/18/2020 10:33 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - SpeechWare - 05/18/2020 10:47 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 06/07/2020 04:39 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - R. Wilke - 06/07/2020 06:08 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - R. Wilke - 06/08/2020 03:51 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 06/08/2020 04:05 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - docinfniti - 06/10/2020 02:31 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 06/10/2020 06:19 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 07/25/2020 09:51 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - docinfniti - 06/11/2020 03:10 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 06/22/2020 04:55 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 07/25/2020 09:52 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 07/28/2020 12:06 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Zig - 07/29/2020 02:14 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 08/02/2020 07:18 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 08/04/2020 10:13 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 08/26/2020 06:59 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - docinfniti - 08/05/2020 02:30 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - dicdoc - 08/06/2020 08:04 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 08/31/2020 04:34 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 09/13/2020 10:00 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 12/17/2020 05:34 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Lunis Orcutt - 12/17/2020 11:09 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 12/24/2020 05:32 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Lunis Orcutt - 12/24/2020 05:51 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 12/28/2020 01:12 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - jmcvay - 12/31/2020 06:37 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Lunis Orcutt - 12/31/2020 08:01 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - jmcvay - 01/01/2021 03:49 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - ax - 12/28/2020 10:03 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Lunis Orcutt - 12/29/2020 10:56 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 02/01/2021 05:45 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 03/18/2021 02:33 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - ax - 03/18/2021 03:04 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 03/20/2021 12:56 AM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - ax - 03/18/2021 10:57 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - wristofdoom - 05/04/2021 07:18 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 06/15/2021 04:47 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - ax - 06/15/2021 05:31 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 06/16/2021 08:25 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 07/13/2021 12:40 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - wristofdoom - 01/12/2022 10:28 PM  
 Nvidia RTX Voice Software Noise Cancelling - OMG   - Ag - 01/13/2022 04:18 PM  
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 12/24/2020 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt In our opinion you're using a Band-Aid approach. If Dragon is producing "him him him" without Nvidia RTX Voice, you are masking rather than fixing the source problem. "him him him" is nearly always interference which ranges from a bad ground, oscillating chip, frayed cable, RF interference and a ton of other possibilities. Nvidia RTX Voice can mask the problem but your accuracy is likely still suffering, albeit less. We strongly suggest searching for and fixing the root problem.

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

Problem occurs on a laptop, disconnected,  wireless headset, hence no frayed cable.

 

Problem occurs both in the fairly noisy RF environment at my home, but also in the desert, no nearby RF, and in deep canyons,  not even very much satellite or GPS RF.

 

Problem occurs on more than one PC/laptop.  hence oscillating chip in the PC unlikely, unless all of my PCs have the same problem.

 

Wireless headset, so the problem could be  in the Sennheiser headset or dongle electronics.  I cannot exclude that, and I have not yet gone shopping for alternative headsets.

 

However, I can fairly reliably reproduce the "him him him"  symptom, by exhaling through my nose. This leads me to suspect that it is an acoustic problem. 

 

Exhaling perhaps a little bit more forcefully than usual, but not necessarily snorting like a bull.  more like the nasal equivalent of a heavy sigh.  Possibly related to allergies -  the problem was much worse during this summer of wildfire smoke.   even now, with Nvidia RTX Voice connected, if I breathe deeply through my nose  I get Dragon's recognition error . without Nvidia RTX Voice,  I get the "him him"  errors on much less forceful nose breathing.

 

Apart from Nvidia RTX Voice, I can remedy  the problem by swinging the headset's microphone arm so that it is above my nose.   how far above depends on how strongly I exhale through my nose. but that brings a lot of other problems.  Swinging the mic below my mouth to below my chin leads to  it catching on my clothes.  The Sennheiser headset mic arm has limited adjustability,  mainly just this swinging arc.

 

I wonder if a better windscreen for the mic  might help. Or, rather,  When I lost my original Sennheiser windscreen I learned that a cheap windscreen for the mic hurts, so it is well worth using the official Sennheiser windscreen. But I wonder if there is a still better windscreen.

 

 (just for grins I am dictating with the microphone swingarm way up on my eyebrows. It still catches some of my nasal  exhalations, but not as many)

 

(I tried a number of experiments with Nvidia RTX Voice disabled, wondering if it was because of some of the performance problems I had with Dragon. inconclusive.  other issues, such as voice enabling menus, have a larger effect.)

 

I hope in the next few months to be able to try a table mic,  to see if it provides better results.

 

 



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If your interference is caused by windage, a standard inexpensive Windscreen might help and keep you wireless. A broadcast pop screen would be better but difficult to use. Having said that, we suspect your wireless microphone is the real culprit. Do you have another USB microphone you can use to test this theory?



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 12/28/2020 01:12 PM
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I have tried quite a few windscreens, ranging from Sennheiser's, through cheap, to some supposedly high end recommended for aviation.  The latter work best, but none cure the issue.

 

I have many alternate mics, quite a few wireless, several USB wired, both headset and table.  However, all are either cheap, or old (like my very old Andreas, from my first pass at speech.)  The next try will be a table mic and/or an array mic. I hope that a good large cardiod will be able to capture my voice as I move/sway +/- 1-2 feet, without capturing my nose. Saving up, and expecting to have to try and return.

 

I had hopes for mics built into the earpiece, or bone conduction - nothing near my nose. However, initial attempts unsuccessful - and then I discovered this forum, and AFAICT you don't recommend any such.

 

I am still hopeful about headsets.  E.g. the new generation of VR headsets has improved audio input, plus has enough processing power in the headset that good noise cancellation should be possible.



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Lunis, I wanted to buy a windscreen for my SpeechWare 3-in-1 microphone, but when I went to check out, I saw that shipping would amount to almost 3 times the cost of the windscreen. Couldn't something that small just be slipped in an envelope and dropped in the mail?



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 12/31/2020 08:01 PM
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You are right about our FedEx shipping rates. For some reason, our ground shipping is much higher than it should be. We recommend sourcing this item on Amazon



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Thanks for the Amazon tip, Lunis. As far as I could tell, none are marketed specifically for SpeechWare TableMikes. Nevertheless, I went ahead and ordered these windscreens: AmazonSmile: kwmobile Microphone Foam Covers (Set of 5) - 0.8 x 1.3 inches (2x3.2 cm) Windscreen Protective Pop Filter Pack for Microphones - Black: MP3 Players & Accessories.

 

As far as I can tell from the dimensions given, they should fit. And they're cheap. They come five in a set, so when the cat runs off with one I will still have four replacements.



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