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Topic Title: Dragon hangs when furnace turns on Topic Summary: The heating season has begun (again) Created On: 12/21/2022 01:40 AM Status: Post and Reply |
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- Ag | - 12/21/2022 01:40 AM |
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- Lunis Orcutt | - 12/21/2022 12:25 PM |
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- Ag | - 12/24/2022 09:39 PM |
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- ax | - 12/21/2022 10:45 PM |
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- ax | - 12/22/2022 04:46 PM |
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- Ag | - 12/24/2022 09:50 PM |
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The heating season has begun in earnest. And Dragon has started hanging. Again... :-(
Several times recently I have noticed
I had this problem when I started Dragon a few years ago.
My "official" office is right above furnace - or at least was when we moved into this house 10+ years ago. But this became a problem when I started using Dragon.
Better headset microphone help, but not enough.
Nvidia Broadcast always filtering helped, but not enough :-(
I moved my office to our "TV room", not so directly connected to the furnace
When my daughter went to college after COVID, I moved my office to her bedroom, which is even more indirectly connected
But when my daughter came home last summer, I moved back to the original office right above the furnace so as to give her bedroom back. Hoping that improvements in the meantime such as using Nvidia Broadcast noise filtering would have solved the problem.
Back to turning on the fan all the time.
and I suppose I might be trying out 1 of those new microphones that Lunis has recommended.
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The MB Pro1 is considered to be mid-range noise filtering which should be considerably more than ample to deal with furnace noise. Even if your microphone wasn't noise filtering enough, Dragon shouldn't hang. Before considering a new microphone or running the following tests, do you have another microphone that you could use for test purposes? If not, we recommend the following:
2. Do you see 3 ??? marks pop up briefly when your microphone is on; just before Dragon freezes? 3. Can you try opening DragonPad, trigger the furnace, dictate a few words and then say play that back, to listen for interference. 4. If #3 is not an option, can you try making a recording in Windows 11 Voice Recorder or Windows 10 Recorder while your furnace is running? Then play it back
If noise turns out to be the problem, you might consider the new Shokz OpenComm UC Bluetooth headset which is about 3 times more noise filtering than the MB Pro1. Note that if your MB Pro1 is under 2 years old, Sennheiser (877) 736-6434 might replace your unit. ------------------------- Change "No" to "Know" w/KnowBrainer 2022 |
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How would I notice if Dragon has hung if my microphone is turned off? ;-} ... I'll have to try "triggering the furnace" to test this.
Certainly I have seen ??? in the results box, and also occasionally in the recognition history around the time of a hang. However, I frequently do not notice the results box. And for example right now I can't find it worth a damn, it was working a few minutes ago but it's disappeared. (Side question: what's the best way to get the results box to show when it has disappeared? Normally I have the results box Anchored and Always Visible. Changing those options to Unanchored and 60 seconds recovered it just now. Is there a better way? I think that the results box may have disappeared when I detached my tablet, changing the screen geography.)
Good idea. Haven't done so. I will have to figure out how to "trigger the furnace". BTW, I am 99.99% certain that I have observed the problem when the furnace starts up. Not when it is running in steady-state. Occasionally when the furnace and/or fan start together, there is a "clunking" sound as the ducts "inflate" - i.e. as a piece of sheet metal in the duct changes from bent slightly inwards to bend slightly outwards. Since I observed this, I just turn the fan to always on. Less of a startup clunk.
I haven't done that this time, but I did this a few years ago when I 1st observed such problems, on your and Leslie's recommendation. No problem then. And once again, the problem is not well the furnace is running. The problem is only when the furnace starts or stops.
Perhaps. But since this problem 1st reared its head within a month or so of me getting the Sennheiser headset, either it has been suboptimal since the beginning, or ...
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I say again: the problem is not constant. Things work fine when differences off, and things work fine when the furnace is on. I have only observed this problem recently when the furnace "clunks" as it is turning on or off.
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Tis the season of a lot of things this year, Ag ... coughing, fervescing, stagflating, kabooming ... |
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Looking back on some of your prior posts, Ag, I see that you went as far as getting a decibel meter a while back to quantify this "furnace roar". Very engineer of you.
P.S., why stop when we could go further on the tangent: could it be a "resonant frequency" thing, whereby the furnace rumble just caused certain components to "shake" and vibrate, as in how a Janet Jackson tune took out laptops? |
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Now you are making me nostalgic. My dear old dad was a vibration analysis engineer. He brought his sound meters into our kitchen and said that our family at breakfast was louder than the Concorde taking off. He applied an entire wall full of cork sound deadening.
Again you are making me nostalgic: one of my favorite of my dad's consulting jobs was at a sugar refinery in the Ivory Coast, where he solved the problem by putting a rubber mat under several machines. They had been hitting a resonant frequency that was liquefying the soil. This did not last long, no Tacoma Narrows, because as soon as the soil liquefied enough to throw the shafts out of alignment the frequency changed, but eventually the machines wore out.
In my case it's impulse noise, which can hit a resonance, but quickly subsides. Again nostalgia: usually my dad would take me along and it was my job to provide the impulse, by hitting something with a hammer or sledgehammer while he recorded the frequency response.
Hmm... I think I saw his old spectrum analyzer in the basement last time I was back home. It hasn't been used in 30 years, but it might still work... :-) ------------------------- DPG15.6 (also DPI 15.3) + KB, Sennheiser MB Pro 1 UC ML, BTD 800 dongle, Windows 10 Pro, MS Surface Book 3, Intel Core i7-1065G7 CPU @ 1.3/1.5GHz (4 cores, 8 logical, GPU=NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 with Max-Q Design. |
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