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Topic Title: Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC
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Created On: 10/02/2022 02:01 PM
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 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Rapp - 10/02/2022 02:01 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/02/2022 02:31 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Scribe - 10/02/2022 02:42 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Rapp - 10/02/2022 05:57 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - ax - 10/02/2022 06:12 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Rapp - 10/02/2022 06:33 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Scribe - 10/03/2022 12:04 AM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Scribe - 10/06/2022 04:32 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - cdslange - 10/07/2022 07:33 AM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Matt_Chambers - 10/10/2022 08:45 AM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Scribe - 10/07/2022 01:37 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - ax - 10/10/2022 03:17 AM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - Rapp - 10/10/2022 11:54 AM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - jaysan - 10/14/2022 12:34 PM  
 Dragon Legal Group 15.71 Bogs Downs When a Comment Is Opened for Editing in Acrobat Pro DC   - monkey8 - 10/19/2022 04:55 AM  
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Rapp
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Whenever I open a comment for editing in Acrobat Pro DC, Dragon bogs down and it takes while to become responsive again.  I have considered a few options, such as an AutoHotkey script that turns off the microphone whenever Acrobat (or a comment in Acrobat) becomes active. 

I have also looked into adding something like the following to nsuser.ini, but I'm not sure which version should be used for Acrobat Pro DC.

[Acrobat|InputVersion\Compatibility Module Status]
Global Dictation=0

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this topic. 

 10/02/2022 02:31 PM
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Depending on the complexity, would working in Microsoft Word and then saving your document as a PDF file work? This is how we handle Word and Excel records and receipts. Note that our requirements are fairly simple and not ideally suited to dictating into forms.

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 10/02/2022 02:42 PM
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This is not a solution but merely a comment on a related problem. Yesterday, I was referring to a PDF that was open in Adobe DC (I have the basic free version). Every time I switched to it and tried to dictate into the search box after saying Press Control F, there was a long delay before what I dictated appeared in the box. I just tried it again as a test with a two-page PDF, and it took 19 seconds for the phrase I dictated into the search box to appear.

 

[Edited to add that I am using DPI 15.61 on a PC with 16 GB of RAM and and an i5 processor.]



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 10/02/2022 05:57 PM
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Here is an Autohotkey script that will automatically turn off the microphone whenever a comment in Acrobat is active for editing. In my very brief testing, it seems to avoid the slowdowns previously associated with editing comments. Of course, if anyone has any enhancements or suggestions, please let me know.

#Persistent
#SingleInstance, Force

;Checks once per second
SetTimer, Check, 1000

Check:

WinGetClass, FC, A
Key := InStr(FC, "AcrobatSDIWindow")
;If Acrobat is active
If Key > 0
{
ControlGetFocus, CF, A
;if editing a comment is active
If (InStr(CF, "RICHEDIT50") > 0)
{
DgnMic := ComObjCreate("Dragon.MicBtn")
DgnMic.Register()
;turns on mic
DgnMic.MicState := 1
DgnMic.UnRegister()
ObjRelease (DgnMic)
}
Return
}

 10/02/2022 06:12 PM
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Nicely done.  In an ideal world of course folks wouldn't have to use any scripting tool to workaround such glitches.

The "InStr()" thing is an immediate reminder to myself on how I could use it for my purposes.

If it works the way you intend it, then it works.  However, perhaps the final "Return" should be put outside the outer set of brackets?

Probably for a single-action script like this which is "persistent", it doesn't matter (too much) where you place the "Return".



 10/02/2022 06:33 PM
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I think you're right. Here is the "Return" after the last bracket so that the script will always return even if it is not in Acrobat.

#Persistent
#SingleInstance, Force

;Checks once per second
SetTimer, Check, 1000

Check:

WinGetClass, FC, A
Key := InStr(FC, "AcrobatSDIWindow")
;If Acrobat is active
If Key > 0
{
ControlGetFocus, CF, A


;if editing a comment is active
If (InStr(CF, "RICHEDIT50") > 0)
{
DgnMic := ComObjCreate("Dragon.MicBtn")
DgnMic.Register()
DgnMic.MicState := 1
DgnMic.UnRegister()
ObjRelease (DgnMic)

}

}
Return
 10/03/2022 12:04 AM
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Rapp,

Thank you very much for taking the time to write that script (and Ax, for the modification.) I'll have to start exploring AutoHotKey. Your script gives me hope that it might be possible to use Dragon to edit in Adobe DC, which would open up some job opportunities for me.

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 10/06/2022 04:32 PM
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This is a follow-up. I read about AutoHotKey and then tried the script set out above (using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC rather than the Pro version). Nothing happened. However, I discovered that if I disabled Adobe's security sandbox, I could dictate into the Find box and Comments boxes without delays. I also had Select-and-Say capacity for dictation and corrections. To disable the sandbox in Adobe, go to Edit, followed by Preferences, and uncheck Enable Protected Mode at startup. Close and then restart the app for the change to take effect.

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 10/07/2022 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Scribe This is a follow-up. I read about AutoHotKey and then tried the script set out above (using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC rather than the Pro version). Nothing happened. However, I discovered that if I disabled Adobe's security sandbox, I could dictate into the Find box and Comments boxes without delays. I also had Select-and-Say capacity for dictation and corrections. To disable the sandbox in Adobe, go to Edit, followed by Preferences, and uncheck Enable Protected Mode at startup. Close and then restart the app for the change to take effect.

 

Scribe please go straight to the top of my favorite person list for this discovery. I have been bogged down in Adobe Acrobat with Dragon for the last several months and this has solved it. It first started happening several months back and it used to lock up everywhere including on the print dialog, find dialog and many other places. Thank you so much.



 10/10/2022 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Scribe This is a follow-up. I read about AutoHotKey and then tried the script set out above (using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC rather than the Pro version). Nothing happened. However, I discovered that if I disabled Adobe's security sandbox, I could dictate into the Find box and Comments boxes without delays. I also had Select-and-Say capacity for dictation and corrections. To disable the sandbox in Adobe, go to Edit, followed by Preferences, and uncheck Enable Protected Mode at startup. Close and then restart the app for the change to take effect.

This is an amazing solution! I just tried it, and was able to use Find function effectively for the first time in months.

I guess this points out the complexity of trying to get Dragon to work in various applications.

Thanks for the great solution!

 10/07/2022 01:37 PM
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You are most welcome. I learn a lot from this board, and I am happy when I can help someone else.



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 10/10/2022 03:17 AM
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Assuming this is the fix (not that I would know since I neither edit PDF nor use desktop Dragon), then Scribe I bestow on you this year's "Herr Wilke" "Fix-It-At-The-Source" Award.

This kind is without a doubt the best kind of fix.

Well done!

 10/10/2022 11:54 AM
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Scribe, that's a great find. Thanks for sharing the solution.
 10/14/2022 12:34 PM
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I had trouble finding this setting in Adobe Acrobat reader, so I'm adding a screenshot I found online that helped me.

This type should seriously be added to some best of. Added to one of the installation guides. A new post by the contributing author with the title "how to avoid Dragon slowdowns in Adobe Acrobat Reader".

This has bothered me/slowed me down for years, but for some reason I figured I would look in the forum for help today, and found it deep in a thread.

 

 



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Adobe "Enable Protected Mode at Start-up" rears its ugly head once again, great detective work Scribe. This is an old problem with Adobe which used to cause a more serious error. It's related to Assistive technology readers scanning the Adobe pages.

 

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