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Topic Title: Speaking negative numbers: "-0.6", "negative" vs "minus"
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Created On: 09/07/2022 03:07 PM
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 Speaking negative numbers: "-0.6", "negative" vs "minus"   - Ag - 09/07/2022 03:07 PM  
 Speaking negative numbers: "-0.6", "negative" vs "minus"   - Lunis Orcutt - 09/07/2022 03:37 PM  
 Speaking negative numbers: "-0.6", "negative" vs "minus"   - Ag - 09/08/2022 01:24 PM  
 Speaking negative numbers:   - Edgar - 09/09/2022 10:04 AM  
 Speaking negative numbers:   - Ag - 09/16/2022 10:10 PM  
 Speaking negative numbers:   - Ag - 10/01/2022 08:22 PM  
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I get "-0 .6" when I say "minus zero point six" 

I get "-0.6" when I say "negative zero point six" 

This is usable,  but I prefer to use the shorter form when I'm reciting a lot of numbers.

I have tried using word properties to obtain what I want - in  particular copying  "negative"'s properties  over to  "minus"'s.  no joy.  (Note:  I had already deleted the standard  "minus"  vocabulary entry, since I prefer that  spoken form "minus"  nearly always produces the symbol "-". I do a lot of math.  so I wanted  the written form to be always "-",  just changing spacing depending on whether it is  before numbers,  between numbers, etc.

I started messing with the properties of "point",  but this started feel like thrashing. 

 therefore, as usual, I ask if anybody else has solved this problem.

 

 I suppose that I could create a full grammar for numbers.  but probably not in Dragon.

 

 



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Have you tried changing Numbers, if greater than or equal to from 10 to 0 in Dragon's Auto-Formatting Options?



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 09/08/2022 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt Have you tried changing Numbers, if greater than or equal to from 10 to 0 in Dragon's Auto-Formatting Options?

 

 

01234 <-- yes



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If I am careful to say "numeral negative one decimal point three" press (with the actual numbers being whatever is desired) it seems to "always" work (sometimes my pronunciation gets in the way - but rarely). I have "numbers > " set to 0.

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Originally posted by: Edgar If I am careful to say "numeral negative one decimal point three" press (with the actual numbers being whatever is desired) it seems to "always" work (sometimes my pronunciation gets in the way - but rarely). I have "numbers > " set to 0.

 

Right.   That's where I am now.

 

But I sure do like saying "minus one point five", or even "numeral minus one point five", which gives "-1 .5" (space before .)

 

 

 if only because negative is 3/4 syllables whereas  minus is only 2.  (3/4  depending on how you count tiv)

 

 



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Sigh. I may write a command "minus <.*>" with number parsing.


But writing a command is not a universal solution for vocabulary problems. If only because of the extra delays necessary, and the necessity to use such commands with pauses before and after

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