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Topic Title: Possible decent email client
Topic Summary: Trying to find a better email client found one that doesn't suck so much… yet
Created On: 04/12/2022 06:47 PM
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My main concern about eMclient is that it exhibits painful stalls when I try to apply Gmail labels/eMclient tags using the menus ...>Tags>More>... --- i.e. stalls building the list of Gmail labels.

I hope it's OK if I describe the problem -- not because it has anything to do with speech recognition, Dragon, or KnowBrainer, but because people on this forum often have experience with debugging this sort of performance problem, and I would really really appreciate it if anybody has further suggestions.

After I described this issue on the eMclient user forums, https://forum.emclient.com/t/emclient-tags-menu-item-very-slow-with-300-tags/80791,

A helpful user replied that this problem had supposedly been fixed in a version earlier this year, that he was seeing <1s delays with approximately the same number of labels as I have, and he suggested that I do the usual disabling of services and startup programs. Which is of course the standard recommendation for so many problems on Windows and other operating systems.  but unfortunately the suggestions have not worked, although they have provided a clue:

I can summarize the results of those experiments as follows:

  • * FAST with safe boot
  • * FAST with safe boot & networking
  • * SLOW with normal boot, all services disabled that msconfig allowed to be disabled, no startup items
  • * SLOW with normal boot, all non-Microsoft services disabled, no startup items

 

i.e. there is something in the difference between SafeBoot&Networking and Normal boot with no services or startup that may account for the eMclient label/tag slowness.

relevant: in safe boot many of my laptop (Surface Book 3) many features do not function: e.g. no camera, no USB dock, no external monitors, … but eMclient should not be dependent on physical I/O devices.

 

Like I said, I am posting this not because it's a speech recognition problem, but because many people on this forum have experience debugging is sort of issue (given how many times they made this sort of suggestion to me with respect to Dragon performance problems).

 

Any further suggestions I would appreciate.

 

Especially if you have advice on how to explore the difference between SafeBoot and NormalBoot - Services - Startup. i.e. if you know of places to go looking for stuff that msconfig does not know how to manage. I found a few such places already, e.g. Nvidia, but to go much further I'll probably just have to diff the set of running tasks and active device drivers. heck, if you know how to get the set of running tasks and active device drivers into a text file, I'd appreciate that.

 

I am going to try to live with this eMclient performance problem, but I greatly fear that it will be so annoying that I will give up after wasting a week or two on it.   



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DPG15.6 (also DPI 15.3) + KB, Sennheiser MB Pro 1 UC ML, BTD 800 dongle, Windows 10 Pro, MS Surface Book 3, Intel Core i7-1065G7 CPU @ 1.3/1.5GHz (4 cores, 8 logical, GPU=NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 with Max-Q Design.



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