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Topic Title: Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?
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 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Khaine - 08/01/2021 05:00 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - R. Wilke - 08/01/2021 05:59 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - ScottKN - 08/01/2021 11:09 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - artsilen - 10/20/2022 04:19 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 08/02/2021 11:39 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - mel.fahn@gmail.com - 08/22/2021 12:07 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 08/22/2021 03:09 PM  
 Did anyone try DPI 15.61 with Windows 11?   - BenMattlin - 12/28/2021 04:39 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 12/28/2021 06:09 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - jzents - 10/05/2021 01:27 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/05/2021 04:04 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Matt_Chambers - 10/05/2021 04:09 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - tej-sfo - 03/08/2022 01:08 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - docinfniti - 08/03/2021 05:38 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - StevenTillson02 - 08/24/2021 09:44 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - matt_riley - 08/27/2021 07:25 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 08/28/2021 01:09 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - thalon - 09/07/2021 11:57 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/05/2021 03:53 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - jzents - 10/07/2021 05:31 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Stephan Kuepper - 10/12/2021 09:09 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Scribe - 10/12/2021 10:09 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - monkey8 - 10/12/2021 10:04 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/12/2021 11:28 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - jgold55 - 12/13/2021 12:52 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - matthewls - 03/08/2022 04:11 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Tiger Feet - 10/12/2021 02:48 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Stephan Kuepper - 11/23/2021 07:54 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - MikeInit - 11/28/2021 01:07 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - chrisstribbs - 11/21/2021 07:25 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Spoudason - 11/21/2021 07:37 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - chrisstribbs - 11/21/2021 09:43 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - MikeInit - 11/21/2021 01:07 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 11/21/2021 07:09 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - kkkwj - 11/28/2021 07:32 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 11/29/2021 11:08 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - wristofdoom - 12/13/2021 12:01 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - kkkwj - 12/28/2021 11:41 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/08/2022 07:16 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - michaelbeijer - 09/23/2022 12:53 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - michaelbeijer - 09/23/2022 02:57 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 09/23/2022 04:13 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - kkkwj - 09/24/2022 09:13 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - damonlynch - 09/28/2022 05:37 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 09/28/2022 06:39 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Sp1 - 10/12/2022 07:44 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - beshara - 10/20/2022 02:26 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Stephan Kuepper - 10/12/2022 08:40 AM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/12/2022 03:53 PM  
 Did anyone try DNS with a Windows 11-beta?   - artsilen - 10/12/2022 09:58 PM  
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Hi!

 

First of all I apologize for my rather bad english language. In german forums I did not get an answer to the following question, thats why I am trying my Luck here.

 

Do anyone already tried a Windows 11 Beta Version with Dragon Naturally Speaking 13 premium? I am using it on Windows 10 (it works quite well) and am worried that it will not work on Windows 11 because it was programmed for Windows 7.

 

I would like to ask the same question with Dragon 15 proffesional individual, because if DNS 13 premium won't work with Windows 11, I would think about to buy/upgrade to DPI 15.

 

Thanks very much for your answers.

 

Greetings Khaine

 

 

 

 

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If you didn't get an answer to this on the German forum, it is probably because no one on the forum has an answer to it. And we don't like to speculate that much.

However, one of the answers you will definitely get here will be along the lines that while you had been lucky running DNS 13 Premium on Windows 10 so far, you should definitely have upgraded to DPI 15 already long ago, because of the limitations to Premium in general, and because version 13 is hopelessly dated by now, which is even partly correct indeed. But be aware that the download links you will be offered here are for the English version only, and therefore of no use at all for you.



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For whatever it's worth, I've been using Dragon Professional Group 15.61 with Windows 11 Dev daily since Windows 11 was released. On my system, I've noticed no difference in functionality or performance compared to Windows 10.

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I am noticing significant lag time doing cross-platform dictation such as creating filenames for saved items in PDF format, such as banking transaction records. Eventually, the saved material filenames show up, but it takes an inordinately long period of time for that to happen. I have no idea why that happens, because if I create the filenames through ordinary keystrokes, there is no lag time at all.



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                    Welcome (See Mission Statement)

 

Most of us will probably avoid Windows 11 until it has proven itself among those who can't wait to jump onto the latest technology  We concur with Rüdiger. Premium 13 (consumer grade) is very old and wasn't even fully Windows 10 compatible. Try changing a Dragon hotkey and you'll see what we mean. We recommend purchasing the German version of DPI 15.61 (professional grade) from a European reseller.


We cannot qualify our answer but we are not expecting any problems with Dragon 15. Microsoft went out of their way to make pretty much all Windows 10 apps compatible in Windows 11. Assuming everything is on schedule, Microsoft will finish purchasing Dragon in December and they will be on the hook to make the latest version of Dragon Windows 11 compatible, should anything go wrong.



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I am unable to use Dragon 15 to type into both edge and chrome. Driving me nuts

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You should NEVER NEVER run an OS beta because you are at its mercy. Software companies do not guarantee their products in betas and we are surprised your computer hasn't slowed down. Nuance has acknowledged that Dragon 15.61 is not Windows 11 compatible and they are working on Ver. 15.7.

As far as being able to dictate into browsers is concerned, Nuance may have to create new Dragon extensions. We can't be certain because we will not be testing Windows 11 until Dragon is ready and Windows 11 is officially released. 

 

Fortunately, you can force Dragon dictation pretty much anywhere with DragonCapture and KnowBrainer 2017. You'll find these utilities under the Trial Downloads link in our signature tag.



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Any updates on this?

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You can install Windows 11 on most Windows 10 computers. Rather than trying to go through the Windows update service, simply download our Windows 11 ISO. Unzip the Windows 11 installation to a USB 3 flash drive and run it from a USB 3 port on your computer. Before doing this, we strongly recommend running the Windows 11 compatibility test but if that goes without a hiccup, you should be able to install Windows 11. We paid our local computer company about $500 to install Windows 11. They couldn't do it so we looked for a different answer. This is why we created a ready to go download. The previous solution went very smoothly. BUT… 

 

We recommend against using Windows 11 which is clearly still beta. For example, you cannot drag a shortcut to Windows taskbar because this feature has not yet been implemented.

 

Running Dragon 15 may run painlessly, if you are lucky but there are all sorts of potential problems that you have never had to deal with. For example, if Dragon crashes we have to reboot. If we relaunch Dragon, we will often have to deal with a bad case of jittery mouse, sluggish dictation and lethargic application behavior.

 

We only have one remote customer who is currently using Windows 11. Although he did not have any of our problems, Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome would not permit Dragon Active Accessibility or Select-&-Say dictation. In fact, dictation was impossible until we disabled Dragon's HTML support and ran DragonCapture. Even then, we had to use DragonCapture at it's slowest setting. When our client has a big project, he just uses Microsoft Word which works well. 

 

We have been using Windows 11 for about a month but it feels like a year. The ONLY reason we are using Windows 11 is to support Windows 11 clients. We recommend sticking with Windows 10 until Windows 11 is finished and then quite possibly until Dragon 16 is released.  Please note that we are not permitted to give out release dates (even if we know) but we can tell you that Ver. 16 is a long way off.



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Wait, what? Microsoft is buying Dragon? I missed that memo. I wonder how that will affect Siri. Last time I heard Dragon was running on Apple's backend servers for Siri. When did it come out that Microsoft was going to buy dragon and nuance was going to surrender it? Thank you for the info?



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Originally posted by: jzents Wait, what? Microsoft is buying Dragon? I missed that memo. I wonder how that will affect Siri. Last time I heard Dragon was running on Apple's backend servers for Siri. When did it come out that Microsoft was going to buy dragon and nuance was going to surrender it? Thank you for the info?

 



The Microsoft purchase has been in the works since last May and will supposedly be finished in December. Although everyone we know at Nuance and Microsoft are insisting that the Nuance acquisition will go through, we have friends, in low places, that say Nuance will veto this deal. If Nuance kills the deal, we will look like geniuses but if Nuance doesn't, we will look like idiots as usual. Hopefully we are wrong. Now you know why the Big Haired Lady named our company “KnowBrainer”.



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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt
Originally posted by: jzents Wait, what? Microsoft is buying Dragon? I missed that memo. I wonder how that will affect Siri. Last time I heard Dragon was running on Apple's backend servers for Siri. When did it come out that Microsoft was going to buy dragon and nuance was going to surrender it? Thank you for the info?

 

 

 

The Microsoft purchase has been in the works since last May and will supposedly be finished in December. Although everyone we know at Nuance and Microsoft are insisting that the Nuance acquisition will go through, we have friends, in low places, that say Nuance will veto this deal. If Nuance kills the deal, we will look like geniuses but if Nuance doesn't, we will look like idiots as usual. Hopefully we are wrong. Now you know why the Big Haired Lady named our company “KnowBrainer”.

 

It would be a very strange M&A contract if Nuance could back out now.  I strongly doubt that is even a possibility.

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@Lunis any updates from nuance on official support for Windows 11.  I installed DPI 15.61 on Windows 11 and things ran fine for a while but just seeing strange behavior now



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im running win 11 21h2 on dell xps 9th gen i7 with DNS 15.61.210.010. there have been no problems. If anything the system seems to be more responsive, somewhat faster, recognition about the same.
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One of the answers you'll almost certainly get here is that, while you've been lucky running DNS 13 Premium on Windows 10 so far, you should have upgraded to DPI 15 long ago, due to the limitations of Premium in general, and because version 13 is hopelessly out of date by now, which is partially correct. However, keep in mind that the download links provided here are just for the English version and will be of no value to you.
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running DNS 15.3 perfectly on Microsoft Windows 11 Home Single Language.

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Responses appear to be positive overall but note that Nuance is in a mad rush to finish Ver. 15.7 which means that they have found something they feel can't wait for Ver. 16 to be released. Please keep Windows 11 experiences coming

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I've not tried Win11 myself and I'm not so keen on doing so, even if I'm quite curious and usually an early adopter. But in my dayly live I'm dependant on a smooth, problem-free experience, especially since I'm a hands-free user who use Dragon to do everything.

One thing which comes into my mind which could be probably annoying is the now missing possibility not to group windows and display their title as text in the task bar, especially since I usually use keyboard shortcuts and "bring up ..." to switch applications. Has anyone of you who already tried out Win11 experience with this?
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Originally posted by: thalon Has anyone of you who already tried out Win11 experience with this?


We just received a report today from a Microsoft insider. He is running DPI 15.61 and KnowBrainer 2020 without issue.



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Thank you! Though I doubt that I can take "advantage" of Win 11 since I am running Win on Parallels on my Mac and I do seem to have a TPM 2.0 whatchmacallit, so I cannot upgrade Win 10 to 11. Cheers!



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I upgraded to Windows 11 yesterday because I was curious and tried it with Dragon ProfessionalGroup 15.7.1. Dictation works fine, but I've had issues with the mouse grid and on occasion with selecting and highlighting text. This may have to do with screen resolution and not with the operating system, but thought I'd report it. Anyway, if you rely on Dragon for accessibility, don't upgrade to Windows 11 just yet.

Bear in mind that you may have to update your device drivers as well. My headset gave me some trouble during the day, and I have yet to determine whether this is a drivers issue, a Windows 11 issue, or if the headset is just acting up again.

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Originally posted by: Stephan Kuepper I upgraded to Windows 11 yesterday because I was curious and tried it with Dragon ProfessionalGroup 15.7.1. Dictation works fine, but I've had issues with the mouse grid and on occasion with selecting and highlighting text. This may have to do with screen resolution and not with the operating system, but thought I'd report it. Anyway, if you rely on Dragon for accessibility, don't upgrade to Windows 11 just yet. Bear in mind that you may have to update your device drivers as well. My headset gave me some trouble during the day, and I have yet to determine whether this is a drivers issue, a Windows 11 issue, or if the headset is just acting up again. Just my two eurocents, Stephan

 

Yes, they really want you to upgrade your computer. My PC, which I built, has an Intel i5-4460 4-core processor, and it is not supported by Windows 11. I have no intention of installing a new motherboard just to get the new operating system. It's incredibly underwhelming in terms of features (at least those that they are advertising, which seem focused on the appearance of the interface).



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Originally posted by: Superman711 I have the same problem

 

can anyone help?

 

 

If you call the command "reboot computer" you should be prompted whether you wish to reboot the computer or not if you are running the latest version of DPG e.g. 15.7. I would imagine it is the same with the latest version of DPI 15.6.1.

 

Secondly if you do add your own global command "reboot computer" (which does nothing and therefore negates the inbuilt command) it WILL take precedence over the inbuilt Natural Language Command with the latest versions of DPG at least. So simply add an advanced script called "reboot computer" with the following:

 

'#Language "WWB-COM"

Option Explicit

Sub Main
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Scribe,

Are you certain that installing TPM 2.0 into your computers bios won't make your computer Windows 11 compliant?" Our bad ass 7 month old 64 Gb i9 10980XE 18 CORES CPU is not Windows 11 compliant. Apparently TPM 2.0 wasn't even released until this July. It may not be easy for Microsoft to convince end-users to go through what is necessary to install Windows 11 or purchase a new computer. This time around we are having a computer service company update our bios and install Windows 11. We would like to check out the new Windows speech recognition engine.

UPDATE: After installing TPM 2.0 into our bios and theoretically being fully Windows 11 compliant, Windows 11 failed to upgrade several times. Our $200 computer guy is researching the problem



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That sounds really annoying.

I also am unable to upgrade my computer to Windows 11.

At the moment, I am not in the market to buy a new computer.

What "magical" attributes will Windows 11 provide versus Windows 10?

Will or just make more of my  (older) applications unusable?



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I've been using dpg 15.71 on w11 home on a surface 8 pro w/o problem.

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For those who have taken the plunge to Windows 11 already, I wonder if you could try something out for me please.

It concerns Microsoft Edge in Windows 11. I would like to know about a setting within it and if it has changed at all.

So if you could open Microsoft Edge, and click on "Settings and more" (that is the 3 horizontal dots at the top right of the page.)

In the menu, can you see a title about two thirds of the way down that says, "Reload in Internet Explorer mode?"

It will be most appreciated

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Originally posted by: Tiger Feet For those who have taken the plunge to Windows 11 already, I wonder if you could try something out for me please. It concerns Microsoft Edge in Windows 11. I would like to know about a setting within it and if it has changed at all. So if you could open Microsoft Edge, and click on "Settings and more" (that is the 3 horizontal dots at the top right of the page.) In the menu, can you see a title about two thirds of the way down that says, "Reload in Internet Explorer mode?" It will be most appreciated Cheers

 

Tiger,

as far as I can tell there is.

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Originally posted by: Tiger Feet  I would like to know about a setting within it and if it has changed at all. So if you could open Microsoft Edge, and click on "Settings and more" (that is the 3 horizontal dots at the top right of the page.) In the menu, can you see a title about two thirds of the way down that says, "Reload in Internet Explorer mode?

 

In the German Version of Windows 11 I find it under preferences / standard browser






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Hi,
I am looking to get a new laptop with Windows 11. I am concerned though that Dragon won't work on it well and wondered if it were worth doing so or not.
Don't think I can have Windows 10 supplied...
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I have been using Windows 11 since 22 October without any problems at all. That is with DPI 15.61, SpeechStart+, DragonCapture and Speech Productivity Standard.

 

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Thank you, the manufacturer wanted to charge me an extra £500 to use Windows 10 rather than 11!

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Originally posted by: Khaine Hi!

 

 

 

Do anyone already tried a Windows 11 Beta Version with Dragon Naturally Speaking 13 premium? I am using it on Windows 10 (it works quite well) and am worried that it will not work on Windows 11 because it was programmed for Windows 7.

 

 

I would like to ask the same question with Dragon 15 proffesional individual, because if DNS 13 premium won't work with Windows 11, I would think about to buy/upgrade to DPI 15.

 

 Khaine,

I don't know about DNS 13, but with DPI 15.61 I am using a Windows 11 official version as a Virtual Machine on my MacBook Pro 2014 via Parallels Desktop 17.1.0 (51516) and I  enjoy it. No problems so far. I ran the the Windows 10 VM alongside for a while to be sure, but don't need it any more. Win 11 seems to start and work a little faster, perhaps because I started a new user profile.

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As of 48 hours ago, we installed Windows 11. It is no longer in beta. We are running DPG 15.71, DragonCapture, SpeechStart+ and KnowBrainer 2020. These utilities and pretty much all of our other utilities, work about the same way they did in Windows 10. HOWEVER, we have performed a little testing with the Windows 11 speech engine. From a point of accuracy, it doesn't seem to be any better than WSR but a few interesting features have been added. For example OneNote is not Dragon friendly but is Windows speech friendly and even includes Select-&-Say capability. It also includes an automatic pop-up Dictation Box for non-dictation friendly fields such as Browser address fields. Windows 11 speech (we don't know what to call it yet) is very quick and although we only tested for about 15 minutes, it feels equivalent to using Notepad instead of Microsoft Word. We are not really impressed but Microsoft hasn't purchased Dragon yet either



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Lunis: I love your sense of humor! We need more like it on this forum... :-) "Although everyone we know at Nuance and Microsoft are insisting that the Nuance acquisition will go through, we have friends, in low places, that say Nuance will veto this deal. If Nuance kills the deal, we will look like geniuses but if Nuance doesn't, we will look like idiots as usual. Hopefully, we are wrong. Now you know why the Big Haired Lady named our company "KnowBrainer".

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We should probably add that we were told that the Nuance purchase wouldn't happen this year. It was previously anticipated to be in December. The purchase has been pushed ahead to the 1st quarter of next year. While technically we were right about December, we are still concerned about the 1st 2022 quarter.


PS: We are no longer recommending Dragon 15 and Windows 11. Most of the time it seems that Dragon works acceptably but there are other times when we have to kill Dragon in order to get our mouse control to smooth out and fix speed issues. We can usually relaunch Dragon but there are definitely some Windows 11 quirks for Nuance to iron out.



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I'm on Windows 10 still, but apparently, the new Notepad has multilevel undo.

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/12/07/redesigned-notepad-for-windows-11-begins-rolling-out-to-windows-insiders/

Are there any Windows 11 users with access to the new Notepad who can report back on how Notepad plays with Dragon?



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I built a new Windows 11 machine over the holidays and am running DPI 15.3 and SpeechStart. The biggest problem I have is that my USB connections drop whenever the machine hibernates or something and the system loses the microphone. If I switch USB ports SS wants me to retrain every new port. Dragon comes up and grabs the system microphone port but there's no microphone there. I'll have to figure something out to stop the hassle of unplugging/replugging the USB mic all the time. Maybe stop the machine from hibernating or rebooting.


The rebooting part is a bit of a hassle too - it's like the USB ports are activated after the software gives up on finding a microphone, so replugging is required after each reboot too. Bummer.


Windows 11 has a terrible File Explorer and right-click context menu. Rob put me on to StartAllBack, a $5 utility that fixes the terrible, terrible context menu and gives you a better menu bar on File Explorer. I am also running QtTabBar 1038 that gives you tabs on FE. I haven't done very much with Dragon so far, but it seems to work fine. I bought a Win10 license for about $15 online like I did two years ago for my previous machine, and then upgraded for free to Win11. Everything went well there too.

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DPG 15.71 slows everything down but for us, is tolerable for about 6 hours until everything becomes so slow that we have to close Dragon. We can usually relaunch DPG and get by until the end of the day. We realize that not everyone experiences problems but enough people do that Nuance needs to issue a patch; rather than waiting for Ver. 16. If we only relied on dictation, we could get by with Microsoft's Voice Access but we live by our commands which really struggle in Windows 11.

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After a while of testing Voice Access + Voice Macro, I decided to install Dragon again, to see how it is doing, but can't even get it to start.

I'm on Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
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Dragon starts, and then immediately crashes. Every time.



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OK, I updated Windows. I also manually deleted all traces of Dragon, including my user profiles, and reinstalled Dragon. Everything seems to be working now!

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Windows 11 can be a bit of a strange animal but after our initial poor results, Windows 11 is working well for us also. We are using DPG 15.71. Ver. 15 is not specifically tuned for Windows 11 but most end-users shouldn't notice any difference.

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Dragon seems to slow down my whole machine these days - even typing into Notepad or browsers using my hands. It might be caused when Dragon boots and cannot find a microphone. Then even after I unplug/replug my usb mic so Dragon can find it, it seems to have problems. I have not spent any time debugging it - I just shut it off and go back to manual typing. It might also have something to do with too long between Dragon reboots (even if the mic is shut off for a day or two) or too many Chrome tabs open (50). If Dragon loads and unloads 50 tabs every time I switch between Word and Chrome, that could slow things down too.

 

I rebooted, ensured that my usb mic was recognized by the system, started Dragon (it started fast for me), and did some dictating into Word and notepad. It worked fine, and recognized reasonably fast (according to RW's great rule of recognition-time = .85 * speaking time).

 

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On my Windows 11 system, Dragon Professional Individual 15.6 slows down the entire system after a few hours. I'm not sure what the exact trigger is. Whatever the cause, it brings the system to its knees. Even something very simple like playing back a video is dramatically slowed down, to the extent that you can see one individual frame playing after another. Running a processor intensive application like Lightroom is much worse. If you don't want to use Dragon, just close it, and the system is back to normal. If you actually want to use Dragon, the only solution is to reboot.

Nuance engineers probably know the cause, but if past release practice is any guide, the fix will take 6 months or a year or more to be released. Things seem to progress at a glacial pace there, from a release standpoint at least. I can't imagine that's good for software engineer morale there.
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Originally posted by: damonlynch On my Windows 11 system, Dragon Professional Individual 15.6 slows down the entire system after a few hours.


You probably already know that your top shelf computer isn't the problem. Only a few end-users experienced the slowdown issue but you're in good company. We felt your pain for several months. We don't know if this will help but our computer IT created an administrator Windows user profile. When opening the administrator user, everything, including Dragon, was quick. We then rebooted under my profile and everything was quick again. It did not slow down after a few hours or even a few days. We don't see how this worked and we can't guarantee you will experience similar results but it somehow fixed our issue.  We should also mention that in our case, closing Dragon only temporarily worked. After about 6 months, our entire computer slowed down to the speed of molasses and our gaming computer packs an i9-10980XE CPU (18 cores), 64 Gb of RAM, 3 32 inch monitors etc... you get the idea.

Support was probably correct about Ver. 16, which will fully adapted too Windows 11 but nevertheless, you really shouldn't be able to tell the difference and… neither Microsoft or Nuance level 3 support (only available to Dragon resellers) has an answer for this particular issue. Don't waste your time



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I have just bought a desktop PC, And I intend running DNS 15, It has windows 11 installed, should I be returning to exchange for Windows 10?
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In my experience, in Outlook 365, Dragon 15.61 is quite sluggish on a new Windows 11 machine with 16 GB of RAM, as compared to a Windows 10 machine with the same amount of RAM and a slower processor. As a result, I bought a refurb Dell Optiplex running Windows 10 on Amazon just to ensure I have a functional Windows 10 machine for Dragon going foward. I wouldn't purchase another Windows 11 machine to run Dragon until and unless they update it for Windows 11.

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Depends on what you want to do. Dictation should be fine into MS Word and Outlook, as well as other applications (the usual restrictions apply). Command and control will not work everywhere. E.g., you won't be able to access the Windows start menu by voice under Windows 11.

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We concur with Stephan. Returning your computer would be a royal pain in the ass. Windows 11 shouldn't be much of a determent. However, if you miss Windows 11 commands, they are built into, along with many more, KnowBrainer 2020. You'll find a 30 day trial in our signature tag

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If we were not so close to the putative introduction of DNS 16, I would encourage you to upgrade to the latest version of Dragon, which I believe is DNS 15.61, which I am using. I am currently using Windows 11 with no difficulties whatsoever, as far as I can see. I do have a very fast, high capacity computer equipped with 32 GB of memory (16+!6); at a certain point we need to accept the fact that demands on computation speed and resident and reserve memory that we thought would be sufficient years back are simply overwhelmed by the amount of data that needs to be processed. Whatever you are doing with Windows 10, you can do with Windows 11. The Windows 11 upgrade includes a few new features, none of which I would ever expect to use. I may change my mind once I acquire a Windows 11 how-to operating manual written by someone who is been a great deal of time parsing out the differences between Windows 10 and 11. As far as I can tell, and I am hardly an expert, what I have seen suggests that the latest version focuses very heavily on creating videos and computer graphics, none of which I do. There is more than enough to learn just in mastering DNS and KnowBrainer. I would suspect that the DNS 13 module that you're using is simply incapable of doing its job simply because of the computational load your computer is asked to do. But that's just my opinion.



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