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Topic Title: Individual numbers being recognized as commands
Topic Summary: Dragon thinks 5 is a command
Created On: 09/02/2019 12:34 PM
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 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/02/2019 12:34 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Alan Cantor - 09/02/2019 12:48 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/02/2019 01:34 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/02/2019 03:48 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/02/2019 04:17 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Lunis Orcutt - 09/02/2019 09:14 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Alan Cantor - 09/02/2019 11:03 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Stephan Kuepper - 09/03/2019 03:07 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/03/2019 08:57 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - PG LTU - 09/03/2019 12:16 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/03/2019 03:21 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - PG LTU - 09/03/2019 04:38 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/03/2019 04:53 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - PG LTU - 09/04/2019 01:12 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/04/2019 07:24 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/04/2019 09:51 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - PG LTU - 09/04/2019 12:19 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/04/2019 12:42 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/04/2019 02:14 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/04/2019 04:45 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Alan Cantor - 09/04/2019 06:04 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/04/2019 06:58 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Stephan Kuepper - 09/05/2019 08:44 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/05/2019 09:45 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - PG LTU - 09/05/2019 10:25 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/05/2019 10:41 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Alan Cantor - 09/05/2019 12:01 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - PG LTU - 09/05/2019 12:31 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 09/05/2019 01:41 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 10/02/2020 09:14 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - PG LTU - 10/02/2020 10:59 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 10/02/2020 11:06 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 10/10/2020 05:05 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 07/08/2021 11:07 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Lunis Orcutt - 07/08/2021 12:34 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 07/08/2021 03:09 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - monkey8 - 07/15/2021 10:23 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Lunis Orcutt - 07/15/2021 11:44 AM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 07/15/2021 12:19 PM  
 Individual numbers being recognized as commands   - Matt_Chambers - 07/16/2021 03:05 PM  
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Originally posted by: monkey8  

 

It doesn't make sense to me that the double list commands or commands like edit<1to10> are causing the issue of single digit commands being recognised but then it depends what it says on the recognition history?

 

My guess is that the single digit commands are being generated by UIA or MSAA for particular user interfaces or possibly by a dragon web extension if the application is a browser. The next time it happens check the recognition history again and take a note of what application you are using and the particular window. Dragon does auto generate and remove commands  for various user interfaces on the fly all the time so it could be that.

 

The other possibility is that if you use KnowBrainer there is an older command/command set with lists of letters that could cause this problem e.g. an example would be:

 

 

 

 

Check the global commands tab on the KB sidebar for these commands.

 

 

I'm really not sure, Lindsay. Thanks for asking. Right now, the problem is not occurring, but it can be strangely intermittent.

I have deleted almost all of my global commands, at which point the problem goes away. I have moved some of the commands to Vocola, without problem. (Whenever a Vocola command is triggered, I use a combination of a HeardWord instruction and a one line Advanced Scripting command to show a message in the DragonBar, so I would know if Vocola is causing the problem.)

It seems that the problem now is somehow caused by having a list of numbers in a global command in Advanced Scripting. I am open to suggestions on how to test this. I have been slowly adding back in global commands that do not use numbers, particularly ones that are very difficult or impossible to re-create in Vocola, and seeing if the problem rears its ugly head.

This morning, I added back in a command I use with the Spelling Window, named "edit <1to10>”, and the problem recurred. I deleted the command, and the problem did not recur. Normally, I would take this to mean that this particular command somehow caused the problem, but the problem is so intermittent that I am not confident of this. Accordingly, I re-created that command, but added a specific DragonBar message to the command, so if that triggers the problem, I will know. This is, however, a tedious way to identify the problem.

If there were a way to identify exactly which command was being triggered, it would be easy to solve the problem. As far as I know, however, this is not possible. Saying "show recognition history" simply enables you to determine if in fact the problem was caused by a command, but not which command. The Dragon.log doesn't seem to show the information I need.

I think I will continue to add back in various Advanced Scripting commands that don't use lists of numbers and make sure the problem doesn't recur. If that works for couple of days, maybe I will add in commands that use lists of numbers, or maybe I will just move those commands to Vocola, which handles things like that very well.

Your suggestion about the single digit commands being generated by Dragon for particular interfaces is interesting, but this problem has occurred in DragonPad, Jarte, and Notepad++, and I really don't think Dragon could be doing that for all of those programs.

I am not using Knowbrainer. It's a wonderful product, but there was no way I could've gotten my former employer to install it, and, now that I am retired, I am too used to my own custom commands to add in the Knowbrainer commands.

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