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Topic Title: KnowBrainer refuses to start
Topic Summary: KB2017 stopped so I upgraded to 2020...still no luck
Created On: 01/20/2022 02:47 PM
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 KnowBrainer refuses to start   - Terry - 01/20/2022 02:47 PM  
 KnowBrainer refuses to start   - Terry - 01/20/2022 03:39 PM  
 KnowBrainer refuses to start   - Lunis Orcutt - 01/20/2022 04:25 PM  
 KnowBrainer refuses to start   - Terry - 01/20/2022 04:33 PM  
 01/20/2022 02:47 PM
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When I try to start KnowBrainer2020 after installation over KB2017 (which appears to go smoothly) I get a small process stub named KBPro.exe *32 of size around 3,944 K but no flash start-up screen and no KnowBrainer.  This happens whether I start DMPE first (which I've had to do for a long time as KB2017 lost its ability to start DMPE itself) or try to have KB2020 start itself and DMPE.  I've tried the usual uninstall-reinstall cycles with no change in behavior.  I upgraded to 2020 thinking the issues with 2017 would not be present, but no luck so far.  There is no request for the license I purchased although one time there was a KB process in Task Manager that seemed to reference a license check.  Running Windows 7 (blame my employer!).

Suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.


 01/20/2022 03:39 PM
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So...I uninstalled KB2020 and the KB Command Updater. Made sure all AppData files were gone as indicated in another thread. Rebooted. Re-installed KB2017 and ran it. Functioned as expected. Then ran the installer for KB2020. Started DMPE and loaded a user. Tried to run KB2020; same problem as before. Killed background KB process and shut down DMPE. Re-started KB2020 and this time it came up with the requester for registration, which ran properly. KB2020 then started appropriately and loaded DMPE. I haven't had the courage to kill KB2020 and re-load with DMPE already running, which is a lot faster just 'cause I hate to mess with success. As I recall my issues with KB2017 all started when I tried to use the original KB Command Updater. I'm hesitant to install the new KB Command Updater.

Any thoughts would be appreciated but I'm up and running for now.
 01/20/2022 04:25 PM
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We don't recommend changing anything at this point but KnowBrainer 2020 upgrades are full installations and do not require KnowBrainer 2017.

On another note: It's really time for your employer to move up to Windows 10 considering that Windows 11 is already here. However, we do not recommend Windows 11 quite yet.


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 01/20/2022 04:33 PM
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Thanks, Lunis. I made the assumption that the "upgrade" product required some evidence that 2017 was hanging around somewhere! As for my employer, don't get me started. Curiously, all the C-suite denizens and their clerical support staff have Windows 10. Those of us in the trenches, well, no. Above my paygrade! My employer also switched away from Nuance's DNS some-version-or-another to M*Modal which, after trying it for about a week, I dumped from my system to return to DMPE even though I had to pay for it myself.
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