KnowBrainer Speech Recognition
Decrease font size
Increase font size
Topic Title: How to use the "Windows Open [dictation]" within existing Windows Explorer dialog box?
Topic Summary: Need quicker way to find folders and files within Windows Explorer
Created On: 12/15/2021 10:35 AM
Status: Post and Reply
Linear : Threading : Single : Branch
 12/15/2021 10:35 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
brooklyn cabin
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 346
Joined: 02/01/2013

I have been really enjoying the "Windows Open [dictation]" command. Searching in my many folders and files has long been problematic by voice.
However, when a Windows Explorer dialog box is ALREADY open, such as when I am attaching a file or having to browse for a folder, is there a way to use a speech command like the one above to quickly locate the folder or file?
Thanks,
Dan

 12/15/2021 11:53 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Edgar
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 1276
Joined: 04/03/2009

Sometimes just saying the name of the file or folder that you want to highlight then saying "press enter" (after verifying that the appropriate file/folder is selected) will do the job in Windows Explorer. When that fails, try saying "press" followed by just the first letter of the file/folder name. This will highlight the very first entry which begins with that letter (this will be a lot easier if your Windows Explorer view is already alphabetized/sorted by name). If the first item is not the one you are looking for you can continue saying "press" followed by the first letter to continue highlighting, one after the other, each item whose name starts with that letter. Ultimately (if they are alphabetically sorted by name) you can say "move down" followed by the proper number to highlight the proper item before saying "press enter".



-------------------------

-Edgar
DPI 15.3, 64-bit Windows 10 Pro, OpenOffice & Office 365, Norton Security, Shure X2U XLR to USB mic adapter with Audio Technica DB135 vocal mic, Asus X299-Deluxe Prime, Intel Core i9-7940X (14 core, 4.3 GHz overclocked to 4.9 GHz), G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3333 (PC4 26600) F4-3333C16Q-64GTZ, NVIDIA GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 GV-N1060G1 GAMING-6GD REV 2.0 6GB graphics card with 3 1920x1080 monitors



 12/15/2021 08:03 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Lunis Orcutt
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 39967
Joined: 10/01/2006

Your KnowBrainer 2020 has a solution for that also. If you wish to open a file, spreadsheet, PDF, folder etc., from within File Explorer, use your KnowBrainer Open <dictation> command. For example, if you have your work folder open and you wish to open a subfolder by the name of “hogwash” say Open <hogwash>. Unfortunately there is a catch. We just found an error in the command so you will need to update your current KnowBrainer installation with the KBCommandUpdater



-------------------------

Change "No" to "Know" w/KnowBrainer 2020
Trial Downloads
Dragon/Sales@KnowBrainer.com 
(615) 884-4558 ex 1

 12/16/2021 10:59 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
brooklyn cabin
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 346
Joined: 02/01/2013

Thank you, Edgar. I've been navigating that way for a while. What I am looking for is a way of quickly jumping to folders that are not visible on the screen. For instance, let's say I have a few different subfolders in a "Taxes" folder, I'd like to get to one of the subfolders without going through several different steps of selecting folders.

Lunis, this "open [dictation]" does not activate a command when I utter it in the Windows Explorer dialog box. It is recognized as text every time. Also, it wasn't clear to me whether this command would only work for folders or files that are currently visible in the screen or whether it would be helpful in jumping around to other folders/files that are not currently visible.

I'm wondering if I need to copy the file directory of my most commonly used folders and create speech commands that then enter those file directories into the address bar and take me there.

 12/16/2021 11:52 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Edgar
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 1276
Joined: 04/03/2009

Originally posted by: brooklyn cabin What I am looking for is a way of quickly jumping to folders that are not visible on the screen.

For this, I have a command (currently written in C++ but originally a Dragon command). You're going to want to name this command with some fairly obscure trigger preface and give it a list of target files and folders:
Explore <FilesFolders>

the list will consist of "aliases to" files/applications and folders:

App Data

See Drive

D Drive

Taxes Folder

My Novel

etc.

unless you want to use a DVC command (which can be done but is a little more complicated) the code would look something like this:

   Select Case ListVar1

      Case "See Drive"

         ShellExecute "C:\"

      Case "D Drive"

         ShellExecute "D:\"

      Case "Taxes Folder"

         ShellExecute "D:\Taxes\"

      Case "My Novel"

         ShellExecute "D:\Novel\Novel.DOCX"

      Case Else

         TTSPlayString "not yet implemented"

   End Select

 



-------------------------

-Edgar
DPI 15.3, 64-bit Windows 10 Pro, OpenOffice & Office 365, Norton Security, Shure X2U XLR to USB mic adapter with Audio Technica DB135 vocal mic, Asus X299-Deluxe Prime, Intel Core i9-7940X (14 core, 4.3 GHz overclocked to 4.9 GHz), G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3333 (PC4 26600) F4-3333C16Q-64GTZ, NVIDIA GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 GV-N1060G1 GAMING-6GD REV 2.0 6GB graphics card with 3 1920x1080 monitors

 12/16/2021 04:29 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Lunis Orcutt
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 39967
Joined: 10/01/2006

Brooklyn,

The original KnowBrainer Open <dictation> command is broken so you will need to update through our KBCommandsUpdater, as previously noted.

HOWEVER, did you know that if you instruct Windows to index your entire computer (other than the operating system) you can now open any folder or file instantly. In other words, you don't have to open File Explorer if you know the name of your folder, file, spreadsheet, song etc. For example, if you wish to open a subfolder by the name of “who let the dogs out” on Drive D (4 subfolders deep) say Windows Open Folder <who let>. Think Siri or Alexa. KnowBrainer 2020 now includes the ability to open any email (in Outlook only), OneNote, document, file etc. without going through File Explorer.

 

PS: If you don't know where to find Windows indexing options just say Windows Open <indexing>. Let your KnowBrainer app do the heavy lifting



-------------------------

Change "No" to "Know" w/KnowBrainer 2020
Trial Downloads
Dragon/Sales@KnowBrainer.com 
(615) 884-4558 ex 1

 12/16/2021 11:28 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message


jgold55
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 326
Joined: 09/19/2010

This is a great command!

 

 



-------------------------

HP Pavillion dv7;Windows 10 Home; i7 2670-QM @2.2 GHz; 16GB RAM; DPI 15.61; Knowbrainer 2017; Dragon Capture; SpeechStart +; Sennheiser MB Pro 1 UC/ML;  Addasound SR2701

 12/17/2021 09:48 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
brooklyn cabin
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 346
Joined: 02/01/2013

Lunis, yes, I am really impressed by the "Windows open [dictation]". That's why I started this thread, because I was looking for a way to do that once I am already inside of a file Explorer dialogbox – such as when I am trying to save a file in a certain folder or attach a file.

I have already updated KB 2020 and the "open [dictation]" does not work. Have you tried testing it on your system now?
How should it work – is it a way of selecting a file or folder that is already on the screen? Or can it select a file or folder that is not currently visible but located elsewhere in Windows?

Thanks.

 12/17/2021 11:16 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Lunis Orcutt
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 39967
Joined: 10/01/2006

Have you updated your KnowBrainer 2020 installation with the KBCommandUpdater?



-------------------------

Change "No" to "Know" w/KnowBrainer 2020
Trial Downloads
Dragon/Sales@KnowBrainer.com 
(615) 884-4558 ex 1

 12/17/2021 11:24 AM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
brooklyn cabin
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 346
Joined: 02/01/2013

Yes, the build date for my version of KB is 12-02-2021.

Can you give me an actual example of a command you would use with this "Open [dictation]" command when inside a Windows Explorer dialog box?

Thank you.

 12/17/2021 12:09 PM
User is offline View Users Profile Print this message

Author Icon
Lunis Orcutt
Top-Tier Member

Posts: 39967
Joined: 10/01/2006

You are up to date. Try placing your cursor inside a File Explorer window. Let's say the folder the cursor is in includes another folder called “Work”. You should be able to say Open <work>  to simultaneously select and open the “Work” folder.



-------------------------

Change "No" to "Know" w/KnowBrainer 2020
Trial Downloads
Dragon/Sales@KnowBrainer.com 
(615) 884-4558 ex 1

Statistics
32324 users are registered to the KnowBrainer Speech Recognition forum.
There are currently 0 users logged in.
The most users ever online was 12124 on 09/09/2020 at 04:59 AM.
There are currently 366 guests browsing this forum, which makes a total of 366 users using this forum.

FuseTalk Standard Edition v4.0 - © 1999-2022 FuseTalk™ Inc. All rights reserved.