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Topic Title: KnowBrainer "VERSION" = "RELEASE"
Topic Summary: KnowBrainer "VERSION" = "RELEASE" originally I started this thread 01/19/2021, but could not find it today therefore pasted it as follows
Created On: 08/30/2021 10:00 PM
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 KnowBrainer "VERSION" = "RELEASE"   - cesmd40831 - 08/30/2021 10:00 PM  
 KnowBrainer "VERSION" = "RELEASE"   - Lunis Orcutt - 08/31/2021 01:28 PM  
 KnowBrainer   - cesmd40831 - 09/03/2021 09:57 AM  
 KnowBrainer   - cesmd40831 - 09/03/2021 10:16 AM  
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KnowBrainer "VERSION" = "RELEASE"

Topic Summary: My head is peaking out from under a rock. "BUILD" of KB Commands frequently mentioned but VERSION/RELEASE???     01/19/2021

 

I made a new thread in 04/2020 in which someone posted this week, mid-January 2021, mentioning "VERSION" a.k.a. "RELEASE" ... and to make sure to have the newest RELEASE.

 

How do you properly Delete KnowBrainer and Install the latest VERSION/RELEASE?  With DMPE 4.3 closed, click START, delete KB 2017 from list of apps by R clicking and clicking UNINSTALL?

 

Where to look for availability of new VERSIONS/RELEASES???

 

1. You can uninstall KnowBrainer through Windows add or remove programs utility.

2. To completely remove KB, additionally delete the USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\ folder.

3. Reinstall KnowBrainer 2017

4. Launch KnowBrainer twice (yes we know that's weird)

5. Run the KBCommandsUpdater to upgrade KnowBrainer <%> KB Build 11-23-2020 to <%> KB Build 01-05-2021.

When you open KnowBrainer, this should be the 1st command you see

 

"%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\"

{Just right of "WINDOWS" ICON, PASTE INTO "TYPE HERE AND SEARCH"

.... brings up "Best Match"

Click on "LOCATION"

then DELETE all KnowBrainer Files Listed [...KnowBrainer2014, ...KnowBrainerCommands, ...KnowBrainerLogs]

 

I had DMPE 4.3 running w KnowBrainer2017

Deleted KnowBrainer 2017

Deleted "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\"

all KnowBrainer Files Listed [...KnowBrainer2014, ...KnowBrainerCommands, ...KnowBrainerLogs]

 

But during Installation "KnowBrainer... is already running

 

Therefore repeated the above with identical results therefore repeated the above a 3rd time except before Double Clicking the Downloaded File I rebooted

Back on track, preparing to launch KnowBrainer2017 the second time.

 

The KB Command Updater just like last night stated I was running 11-24-2020 Build, but 2 weeks ago I updated my KB2017 to the 01-01-2021 Build.

I then closed DMPE 4.3 (didn't reboot)

When I clicked on KB2017 desktop icon to relaunch KB2017 and DMPE 4.3..... I was told KB2017 was already running.

I'll try rebooting and see if I have the 01-05-2021 Build.

 

 

When you close KnowBrainer you need to give it about 20 seconds to disengage from Dragon. Now run your KBCommandUpdater again and you should be looking at Build 01-06-2021. You won't need to uninstall

 

With DMPE 4.3 and KnowBrainer both still CLOSED

I opened KB Commands Updater

 

KnowBrainer Commands Updater WINDOW

You are running version: KB Build 01-01-2021

The latest version is: KB Build 01-01-2021

You are running the latest version of the commands file.

 

THEREFORE   I CLOSED DMPE 4.3 and KnowBrainer2017

 

Deleted KnowBrainer 2017 during which time "... is reconfiguring KB2017" then it was removed from my desktop's list of apps

[as always before I didn't touch the KnowBrainer Commands Updater app], at this point it was still showing in the list

This time I clicked on the WINDOWS ICON to check for the "official" name of the KB COMMANDS UPDATER.... It was not showing in that area, but even after refreshing it remains in the CONTROL PANEL\ALL CONTROL PANEL ITEMS\PROGRAMS AND FEATURES; as always I didn't touch the "KB Commands Updater" program.

 

pasted "%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\"in the "Type here to search" textbox

CLICKED ON "APPS" in this window's menu bar

DELETED: all KnowBrainer Files Listed [...KnowBrainer2014, ...KnowBrainerCommands, ...KnowBrainerLogs]

 

Rebooted desktop

 

Launched KnowBrainer 2017

Closed KB and DMPE 4.3

WAITED >20 SECONDS

 

Launched KnowBrainer 2017

Closed KB and DMPE 4.3

WAITED >20 SECONDS

 

Launched KnowBrainer 2017

DOUBLE CLICKED on the KBCommandsUpdater

Says I am running the latest Build 01-01-2021

 

Rebooted my desktop

DOUBLE CLICKED on the KBCommandsUpdater

Says I am running the latest Build 01-01-2021

 

Launched KnowBrainer 2017, but SAYS I'M ALREADY RUNNING KB2017

(NO SIGN OF DMPE 4.3 nor KB 2017 being OPEN)

WAITED >20 SECONDS

 

Launched KnowBrainer 2017, but SAYS I'M ALREADY RUNNING KB2017

(NO SIGN OF DMPE 4.3 nor KB 2017 being OPEN)

WAITED >20 SECONDS

 

Rebooted desktop

Launched KnowBrainer 2017

CLOSE DRAGON AND KNOWBRAINER

WAITED >20 SECONDS

 

Launched KnowBrainer 2017

CLOSE DRAGON AND KNOWBRAINER

WAITED >20 SECONDS

 

Launched KnowBrainer 2017

DOUBLE CLICKED on the KBCommandsUpdater

 

KnowBrainer Commands Updater WINDOW

You are running version: KB Build 01-01-2021

The latest version is: KB Build 01-01-2021

You are running the latest version of the commands file.

Closed this window

Waited >20 seconds

 

Launched KnowBrainer Commands Updater WINDOW

You are running version: KB Build 01-01-2021

The latest version is: KB Build 01-01-2021

You are running the latest version of the commands file.

Closed this window

Waited >20 seconds

 

Launched KnowBrainer Commands Updater WINDOW

You are running version: KB Build 01-01-2021

The latest version is: KB Build 01-01-2021

You are running the latest version of the commands file.

Closed this window

Waited >20 seconds

 

We suspect your computer has buffered a recent update which may not be overwritten for a day or so.

We just uploaded <%> KB Build 01-06-2021 an hour ago but the KBCommandUpdater still thinks we are using Build 01-05-2021 and will probably continue to do this for a while.

 

Hopefully everything will iron out tomorrow.

The new KnowBrainer 2017 Build includes the ability to delete a specific number of Outlook email messages when viewing inbox messages in Preview.

 

Where should I look to see my KnowBrainer 2017 VERSION/RELEASE?

Where do we look for availability of new VERSIONS/RELEASES???

 

Right-click on the KnowBrainer icon in Windows taskbar hidden icons (under that little roof by the clock and speaker). Click About. The latest version is 4.51

don't forget to update to the latest commands with with Rüdiger's KBCommandsUpdater. The previous version is 4.0

 

"^" "To show hidden icons"

Tonight I tried to do so to the KnowBrainer 2017 icon in my "Windows Taskbar" w/o success and again w/o success via the START Menu, clicking on the KnowBrainer 2017 APPLICATION. I eventually discovered to have the KnowBrainer 2017 icon appear in the "Windows Taskbar Hidden Icons" KnowBrainer 2017 had to be running. I do have v4.51.

08/30/2021 a few days ago I deleted:  1) KnowBrainer 2017, #2) KB user profile USERPROFILE%\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\folder, #3) deleted KB2016 exe downloads, #4) SEARCHED my desktop computer for "KnowBrainer."  At this point I did not see anything remaining in my computer for KnowBrainer 2000 16/2017 therefore THEN downloaded KB 2016/2017, installed, closed/rebooted computer TWICE leaving me with "BUILD" 08/19/2021 but still KB 4.00.040.

CLICKING on DMPE 4.3 I closed DMPE 4.3.  I did NOT utilize the KnowBrainer 2017 command  "Close Dragon and KnowBrainer."  At this point I thought clicking on the "^" in the Taskbar I would not be able to the KB2017 ICON but it was still there.

Any other ideas on how to install KnowBrainer v4.51 or higher?

Thank you.  I look forward to being able to utilize VERSION 4.51 = RELEASE 4.51.

 



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DMPE 4.3 Build 15.50.200.030 {04/07/2020}, KnowBrainer 2017 Build 01/01/2021, DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 {12/16/2020}, Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium, Dell OptiPlex 3040 Intel Core i7-6700, CPU@3.408GHz, 3.41GHz, RAM 16.0GB, Windows 10 Pro V1809 64-bit OS, x64-based processor Build 17763.864, 01/20/2003 MedInformatix EMR V7.6.8.20 as of 12/16/2020

 08/31/2021 01:28 PM
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The reason why you are receiving the “KnowBrainer is already running” Error is because you haven't closed KnowBrainer. If you are clicking the X in the KnowBrainer Sidebar, it doesn't close KnowBrainer. It is only equivalent to closing the Dragon Command Browser. There are 3 options for closing KnowBrainer:

 

1. Say Close Dragon and KnowBrainer (if DMPE 4.3.1 is running).

2. Say Close KnowBrainer (if DMPE 4.3.1 is running)

3. Right-click on the HIDDEN KnowBrainer icon (not the icon that's in the taskbar if you have a shortcut) and select Exit.

4. Right-click on the same KnowBrainer icon to view the release which should is now 4.51. After you have run the updater, the 1st command should now be <%> Build 08-19-2021

 

KnowBrainer only takes a few seconds to launch (If Dragon/DMPE  is already running) but if it is launching Dragon, it can take more than 20 seconds. Dragon takes a while to launch  because of the complexities involved.



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 09/03/2021 09:57 AM
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I thought when you close DMPE 4.3 KnowBrainer automatically closes... since you can not open KnowBrainer unless DMPE 4.3 is open OR by clicking on KnowBrainer which automatically opens DMPE 4.3.

Nonetheless after deleting KnowBrainer and the KnowBrainer userprofile again this morning I still have KnowBrainer "BUILD" 08/19/2021 and KB 4.00.040.

I do not have any KnowBrainer personal commands. I did not run the KnowBrainer Updater.



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DMPE 4.3 Build 15.50.200.030 {04/07/2020}, KnowBrainer 2017 Build 01/01/2021, DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 {12/16/2020}, Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium, Dell OptiPlex 3040 Intel Core i7-6700, CPU@3.408GHz, 3.41GHz, RAM 16.0GB, Windows 10 Pro V1809 64-bit OS, x64-based processor Build 17763.864, 01/20/2003 MedInformatix EMR V7.6.8.20 as of 12/16/2020

 09/03/2021 10:16 AM
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from
KnowBrainer Public Toolbox
(Last Updated 09-02-2019)
Bolded listings are our favorites
....
Product Details
KnowBrainer Public Toolbox (Free)

Please click the link above to bring up our always current and up to date KnowBrainer Public Toolbox PDF file.


Many of my previously received emails were lost when my I.T. installed my new computer. I'm aware that I am supposed to be able to click on the hyperlink within the completed KnowBrainer order that KnowBrainer sends to me in an email.

I went in the KnowBrainer store into my count correct on previous orders and clicked on the order invoice PDF which contained:

KB 2014 Full $169 - RECOMMENDED: KnowBrainer 2017 for $149 ($50 off the
regular price in this bundle)


... However there was no http://link to click on to download the latest version of KnowBrainer 2017.

Although the KnowBrainer Public toolbox {states it was last updated 09-02-2019} to "bring up our always current and up to date KnowBrainer Public Toolbox PDF file" when I was attempting to download the latest version of KnowBrainer 2017 by clicking on the following which is on page 2 of the KnowBrainer Public toolbox PDF file:

Dragon Third-Party Utilities:
KnowBrainer 2017 (30 day trial)
DragonCapture (30 day trial)
SpeechStart+ (15 day trial)
Vocola (free) VoiceComputer (30 day trial)

I still wound up with KB 4.00.040

"My Dragon" as of 09/03/2021
DMPE 4.3 Build 15.50.200.030 {04/07/2020}; KnowBrainer 2017 Version 4.00.040, Updated 03/10/2021, Build 08-19-2021 (but unable to update to 4.51); DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 {12/16/2020}, Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium; Dell OptiPlex 7080, Reg Model/Type D15S001, Intel Core i7-10700, CPU@2.90GHz, 2.90GHz [Cores 8] [Logical processors 16], RAM 32.0GB, Micron 2300 NVMe 512GB (01/2021); Windows 10 Pro V1809 64-bit OS, x64-based processor Build 19042.1110, E Pack 120.2212.3530.0 (as of 08/11/2021); ViewSonic 1920 x 1080; MedInformatix EMR V7.6.8.20 as of 08/11/2021 (since 01/20/2003, last updated 02/14/2018)
Carl E. Smith, M.D., F.A.A.P.


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DMPE 4.3 Build 15.50.200.030 {04/07/2020}, KnowBrainer 2017 Build 01/01/2021, DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 {12/16/2020}, Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium, Dell OptiPlex 3040 Intel Core i7-6700, CPU@3.408GHz, 3.41GHz, RAM 16.0GB, Windows 10 Pro V1809 64-bit OS, x64-based processor Build 17763.864, 01/20/2003 MedInformatix EMR V7.6.8.20 as of 12/16/2020

 09/03/2021 12:06 PM
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We would like to remote into your computer to fix KnowBrainer 2017 for you. Our Remote Support hours are 10 AM to 6 PM M-F and 11 AM to 6 PM weekends CDT (including holidays). This service will be complementary since we appear to be at fault.

 

Your KBCommandUpdater is working fine but the installation is resorting to an old release which we will remotely remedy.

 

KnowBrainer must be closed before DMPE. If you close DMPE 1st then it will leave KnowBrainer hanging and will not function until it is closed and re-launched.

 

If you check your email, you will find a complementary download of our remote utility and our Customer Toolbox. The Customer Toolbox has more information like the latest DMPE 4.3.1 and manual downloads. 



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 09/06/2021 09:41 PM
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Thanks to Lunis and some experience I am up and running:
"My Dragon" as of 09/06/2021:
DMPE 4.3.1(.1?) Build 15.51.350.021 (Updated 09/06/2021)
KnowBrainer 2017 Version 4.51.000, Build 08-19-2021 (Updated 09/06/2021)
DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 (12/16/2020)... to be updated as soon as I delete it from my prior computer
Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium
Dell OptiPlex 7080, Reg Model/Type D15S001, Intel Core i7-10700, CPU@2.90GHz, 2.90GHz [Cores 8] [Logical processors 16], RAM 32.0GB, 512 GB Micron 2300 NVMe SSD (01/2021)
Windows 10 19042.1110, E Pack 120.2212.3530.0 (as of 08/11/2021)
ViewSonic 1920 x 1080
MedInformatix EMR (since 01/20/2003): Version 7.6.8.20
Carl E. Smith, M.D., F.A.A.P.

Carl E. Smith, M.D., F.A.A.P. "My Dragon" as of 09/06/2021:
DMPE 4.3.1(.1?) Build 15.51.350.021 Updated 09/06/2021
KnowBrainer 2017 Build 08-19-2021 Updated 09/06/2021
DragonCapture 1.0.368 Updated 04/09/2020
  Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium 
Dell OptiPlex 7080, Reg Model/Type D15S001 New 01/2021
Intel Core i7-10700, CPU@2.90GHz, 2.90GHz [Cores 8] [Logical processors 16]
RAM 32.0GB
SSD 512 GB Micron 2300 NVMe, Non-Volatile Memory Express
OS 64-bit, x64-based processor
Windows 10 Pro Version20H2
Build 19042.1165
E Pack 120.2212.3530.0 As of 09/06/2021
MedInformatix EMR Version 7.6.8.20 Updated 02/14/2018
01/20/2003 to present
us:


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DMPE 4.3 Build 15.50.200.030 {04/07/2020}, KnowBrainer 2017 Build 01/01/2021, DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 {12/16/2020}, Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium, Dell OptiPlex 3040 Intel Core i7-6700, CPU@3.408GHz, 3.41GHz, RAM 16.0GB, Windows 10 Pro V1809 64-bit OS, x64-based processor Build 17763.864, 01/20/2003 MedInformatix EMR V7.6.8.20 as of 12/16/2020

 09/13/2021 06:16 PM
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I have noticed since upgrading DMPE 4.3 to DMPE 4.3.1(.1?) Build 15.51.350.021 on 09/06/2021 (and now with DragonCapture) running in the background) that my same user profile takes 11 seconds to load... both when starting DC and DMPE 4.3 together automatically.... and using KnowBrainer 2017 to start DC and DMPE 4.3 together.

Prior to the upgrade it took 20-25 seconds for my DMPE 4.3 user profile to load. Prior to upgrading to DMPE 4.3.1 I had stopped (many months previous) using DragonCapture and/or KnowBrainer 2017 as the long delays each time I made or revised a command... about 15 times per day... months ago had become intolerable . I would update my KnowBrainer 2017 "Build" every month or two, but did not realize there was such a thing as KnowBrainer 2017 "Versions" = "Releases."..........

Believe me I am not complaining, but any reason why this is happening?

"My Dragon" as of 09/06/2021:
DMPE 4.3.1(.1?) Build 15.51.350.021 (Updated 09/06/2021)
KnowBrainer 2017 Version 4.51.000, Build 08-19-2021 (Updated 09/06/2021)
DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 (12/16/2020)
Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium
Dell OptiPlex 7080, Reg Model/Type D15S001, Intel Core i7-10700, CPU@2.90GHz, 2.90GHz [Cores 8] [Logical processors 16], RAM 32.0GB, 512 GB Micron 2300 NVMe SSD (01/2021)
Windows 10 19042.1110, E Pack 120.2212.3530.0 (as of 08/11/2021)
ViewSonic 1920 x 1080
MedInformatix EMR (since 01/20/2003): Version 7.6.8.20 (since 01/20/2003)
Carl E. Smith, M.D., F.A.A.P.

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DMPE 4.3 Build 15.50.200.030 {04/07/2020}, KnowBrainer 2017 Build 01/01/2021, DragonCapture Build 1.0.3698 {12/16/2020}, Philips SpeechMike LFH3500/00 Premium, Dell OptiPlex 3040 Intel Core i7-6700, CPU@3.408GHz, 3.41GHz, RAM 16.0GB, Windows 10 Pro V1809 64-bit OS, x64-based processor Build 17763.864, 01/20/2003 MedInformatix EMR V7.6.8.20 as of 12/16/2020

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