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Created On: 02/14/2021 07:31 PM
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 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - shamrock - 02/14/2021 07:31 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - shamrock - 02/14/2021 07:52 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/14/2021 09:47 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - shamrock - 02/14/2021 10:43 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/15/2021 11:42 AM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - shamrock - 02/15/2021 01:22 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - Edgar - 02/15/2021 02:37 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/15/2021 07:04 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - shamrock - 02/26/2021 12:38 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/26/2021 02:52 PM  
 Quadriplegic hands-free Help for new computer   - shamrock - 02/26/2021 04:24 PM  
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Hello there

I am a high level quadriplegic completely paralyzed from the neck down since 1986. I have been using a computer with Windows 7 operating system and Dragon NaturallySpeaking 11 premium, with Know-Brainer 11 Since I purchased this computer in 2012. I am looking at purchasing a new computer finally, with window seven not being supported on so many websites. I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to let me know if the versions of Dragon and KnowBrainer I have would currently work with Windows 10, and if not what I would need to operate completely hands-free, with a buddy gooseneck microphone.

 

Thank you in advance.

Dan

 02/14/2021 07:52 PM
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Also wondering if someone could help me out... Is this a decent buy For the money. There is a couple others under "see similar Products"
https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-all-in-one-pc-24-df1036xt



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Your biggest expense might be DPI 15.61 which as of January 11, is $500. Even if Premium 11 installs on your computer, it is absolute rubbish by today's standards. In our opinion, you not only need hands-free control, you need the advantage of the artificial intelligence commands in KnowBrainer 2017 (w/2020 AI Commands) which only works in Dragon 13 and higher. The good news is that KnowBrainer 2017 is complementary to anyone with permanent physical disabilities but it will not work with Dragon Ver. 11. 

Because of Ver. 15's auto-gain control, your existing Buddy Gooseneck microphone should be even better than it is now.

 

Your computer specs are somewhat minimal but adequate. We would rather see 16 GB of RAM and a 512 SSD but this isn't critical. Dragon Ver. 15 only requires half the resources of Dragon Ver. 11 so even if you could use Ver. 11, you would at least appreciate the advantages of Ver. 15.



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Thank you so much for the quick and detailed response, it is appreciated. Far more than you know. I broke my neck in a swimming pool in 1986, and although I use a computer almost daily for e-mail, news,, social media etc., I am by no means knowledgeable in the hardware nor specifics of computers, so your kind effort in guidance is most appreciated. Unfortunately, being ill. I missed out on Black Friday computer sales, I did not realize until yesterday that Presidents' Day had very similar savings. I don't have a huge budge, but would at the same time like this new computer to serve me as my previous one has almost 10 years.
I'm wondering if you are an advocate of HP as a quality machine? In addition to the one I posted there are a couple others. The variance seems in AMD or Intel chips, all seem to have 1 TB and 256 SSD. If time permits you, would you mind telling me if maybe these would be more appropriate.

#1 https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-all-in-one-24-dp0158qe?fbclid=IwAR1W5bA21i46eL7lVrtyRTv6wdls1D0ErsLnrJ9nqcZvu8J0Q5NaE02eod4

#2 https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-pavilion-all-in-one-27-d0255xt-8aj56av-1
#3 https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-pavilion-all-in-one-24-k0225m-8aj02av-1
#4 https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-all-in-one-24-dp0158qe?fbclid=IwAR3OssATnFLWf653wyI9oAYSkXrzEvehra7d8vWWff9R5Vi-FPSDgkvgqpk



 02/15/2021 11:42 AM
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The Big Haired Lady constantly used an HP all-in-one for about 8 years. It gradually died but gave her plenty of time to backup. However, she doesn't want another all-in-one and switched  to a Dell laptop.

Although we have a preference for M-Tech computers, we do not endorse computer manufacturers because quite frankly, we are not qualified. All 4 of your computer choices are acceptable but we prefer #1 and #4.



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Thank you again for your input. Wondering if these might be preferable to the HP machines above.

3880 Dell Inspiron or HP Envy I5

 

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I simultaneously purchased a middle-of-the-road HP laptop (15") and a high-end Dell laptop (17") for a quadriplegic client. Other than DragonĀ® and KnowBrainer very little other third-party software was installed on either. Both were used for dictation in notepad and surfing the web with chrome - that's about it. The client took the HP on the road (small size, low replacement cost if stolen) and used the Dell at home - both got a lot of use over a period of about 7 years. Both of these computers were perfectly capable of performing the required work. If you are looking for a computer that can be used as a workstation AND be operated hands-free you probably want a lot more horsepower - a desktop with lots of fast cores, lots of fast RAM, a big SSD boot drive and a very big spinning-metal hard drive. In any case, budget an extra $50-$75 for an external drive (Seagate makes very good ones) which you may use as an external backup drive to backup your boot drive.

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 02/15/2021 07:04 PM
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Shamrock,

We turned your traditional hyperlinks into embedded hyperlinks to avoid stretching this window so far that many end-users would not be able to respond. We prefer these 2 models, over your previous options, because they include 12 Gb of RAM and 512 SSD. Unless you are doing specialty work, you probably won't need more hard drive space but like Edgar, we have also had great luck with our external Seagate 2 Tb hard drive for about 11 years.



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 02/26/2021 12:38 PM
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Hello Lunis
thank you for the assistance and opinions on a new computer. I just received the new machine, and I'm wondering if I need a brand-new version of DPI you suggested or if a Older version of DPI 15 would be suitable? Also, would I need a version of KB to perform the mouse commands, As I am completely paralyzed from the neck down.
Thanks again for your help
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Dragon, KnowBrainer 2017 and SpeechStart+ include 5 activations which permit use on 5 computers. If you retire a computer, you can uninstall Dragon, right-click on the KnowBrainer hidden icon and select Release Activation to regain 1 of your activations. In theory, you should never run out of activations and more importantly, never need to repurchase.

 

Also note physically disabled end-users should add the inexpensive SpeechStart+ utility



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Thank you, I generally only use my one PC, which has Dragon NaturallySpeaking 11 premium, and KB 2011, which you sent me years ago.
Earlier in this thread you referenced DPI 15.61, Would any earlier version of DPI 15 be suitable? And how could I purchase a version of the KB 2017, I would most likely only need it on one computer.
Many thanks
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