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Topic Title: Auto Box© 8 Standalone Edition is now available for all Dragon users. Topic Summary: No need to have SP Standard or SP PRO installed. Created On: 03/25/2023 06:13 PM Status: Post and Reply |
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- dilligence | - 03/25/2023 06:13 PM |
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- kkkwj | - 03/26/2023 07:10 AM |
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- dilligence | - 03/27/2023 09:42 AM |
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- Ag | - 03/27/2023 09:11 PM |
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- ax | - 03/28/2023 01:00 AM |
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- ax | - 03/28/2023 01:21 AM |
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- dilligence | - 03/28/2023 09:38 PM |
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- tar | - 04/03/2023 06:44 PM |
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- dilligence | - 04/04/2023 05:22 PM |
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- psale | - 08/12/2023 05:33 PM |
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- ax | - 04/04/2023 06:29 PM |
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- ax | - 04/04/2023 08:34 PM |
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The latest Auto Box© 8.0.0.160 is the closest you will get to dictating into speech unfriendly apps with genuine Dragon Select-and-Say control combined with Intuitive Automatic Transfers.
This version has huge improvements compared to Auto Box© 7, like Application Locking (Targeting), Completely Adjustable GUI (with the most ergonomic and responsive Font/Color Pickers you've ever seen), Adjustable Activation and Switching Delay, Smart Dominant Mode, Form Filler Mode, Move from field to field in your target application right from within Auto Box©, and much, more!
Auto Box© is the intuitive and complete solution to dictate into any Dragon unfriendly application. Watch the video below to see what we mean:
Best of all, this version will work with any Dragon Edition (Home, Premium, PRO).
Auto Box© 8 has an extensive, easy accessible HTML Help file to get you acquainted with all of its features.
You can now purchase this highly advanced Auto Box© Standalone version for only $25 ------------------------- Turbocharge your Dragon productivity with 40+ Power Addons |
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Wow! You make great videos. I can hardly wait to try out the new AutoBox. I think your video lady did a nice job of explaining the targeted, passive, and dominant modes - I think it's easier to remember what she says than what I read in the manual for previous versions. :-)
------------------------- Win10/11/x64, AMD Ryzen 7 3700X/3950X, 64/128GB RAM, Dragon 15.3, SP 7 Standard, SpeechStart, Office 365, KB 2017, Dragon Capture, Samson Meteor USB Desk Mic, Amazon YUWAKAYI headset, Klim and JUKSTG earbuds with microphones, excellent Sareville Wireless Mono Headset, 3 BenQ 2560x1440 monitors, Microsoft Sculpt Keyboard and Logitech G502 awesome gaming mouse. |
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Ha ha, she does have a good voice doesn't she? Those avatar voices get better and better, you can even get them with a Dutch accent ------------------------- Turbocharge your Dragon productivity with 40+ Power Addons |
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A: Does Auto Box 8 it have the 123 123456 problem? ... I cannot tell this from your video. How does auto box interact with Dragon's standard autoformatting? Does AutoBox intercept dragons output after autoformatting or before? If you intercept before, does auto box provide its own equivalent autoformatting or like?
... OK, it looks like it does, with several different flavors of automatic transfer. Both time-based, but also content-based, e.g. looking for "terminal punctuation".
Q: is it possible to automatically associate the actual automatic or semiautomatic, dominant or nondominant auto box modes with application windows, or even particular widgets? (Why I ask?: it would become tiresome to have to select from that long list of modes every time I change between applications, if they need different modes. I am very glad you have all of those modes and functions, but once you have functionality you have to choose the default properly. And the defaults do not always want to be global..)
Q: is there a manual or other help file for Auto Box that would've answered my questions above, and others?
BTW: I'm the sort of guy who hates videos because they are slower than reading. But that was a pretty good video. If I get serious I will probably have to do some screen captures so I can actually read that long list of options, and then try to figure out what each of them does.
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Oh heck, it looks like auto box 8 only cost $25. Although the time I myself would spend evaluating it probably cost a lot more than that, especially if it does not pan out. ------------------------- DPG15.6 (also DPI 15.3) + KB, Sennheiser MB Pro 1 UC ML, BTD 800 dongle, Windows 10 Pro, MS Surface Book 3, Intel Core i7-1065G7 CPU @ 1.3/1.5GHz (4 cores, 8 logical, GPU=NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 with Max-Q Design. |
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There is something about your posts, Ag, that just exasperates me as much as fascinates me. You remind me of my uncle, who is a retired EEE. There is something about the "one track mind".
Once I anchor the AG_Box (which you can't do on desktop Dragon obviously), it is in effect AS AUTOMATIC as Herr Wilke's DragonCapture - how about that for an outrageous claim? But definitely not direct in the sense that his API approach with special sauce "intercepts Dragon output" at a lower level.
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To Rob: I do think Auto Box is a heroic workaround for many desktop Dragon folks who just can't get to a proper anchored box. Priced very reasonable, too. Even the late Larry Allen had once opined that "scripting is not for everybody".
P.S., the rambling post above contains multiple factual inaccuracies, either regarding the possibility of "123123456 bug" over Full-Text-Control fields or on the nitty gritty of Chrome Remote Desktop's clipboard syncing. Corrections and clarifications have been made below:
https://www.knowbrainer.com/forums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=37115
https://www.knowbrainer.com/forums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=25&threadid=37131 |
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First, for those interested in purchasing Auto Box© 8. I put the Help file online so you can read all about its powerful features:
https://speechproductivity.eu/ABHelp
@ ax Thanks for clarifying. I will get back on your HTML/formatting question later on.
@ Ag Auto Box© does not have the "123 123456" problem. Looks like this is a DragonCapture bug only. As a matter of fact, none of the SP boxes have this problem
ax is right, Auto Box does not intercept Dragon output in any "raw" sense.
"Can Auto Box 8 do AutoPaste like DragonCapture"
Auto Box© can do fully automatic transfers. But it operates on a totally different principal. In the Automatic Mode anything (i.e. any word, punctuation mark, character etc.) you utter will directly be sent to the underlying target application, or to the fixed "targeted" application of your choice. In addition, you can make Auto Box© completely invisible so there's virtually no distractions.
That being said. This is not AB's most interesting feature. Auto Pasting or Fully Automatic Transfers are prone to errors because there's no Select-and-Say control. So basically it's not very useful for hands-free users.
That's why Auto Box©'s main feature is the so-called "Intuitive Automatic Transfers". Automatic Transfers after detection of (terminal) punctuation marks. Combined with continuous reactivation of the box. That way you can edit your dictation with full Select-and-Say control before it is sent to the target application. You can additionally choose Dominant Mode to seamlessly switch from application to application/window to window to continuously keep on dictating and have Auto Box© follow automatically. Still with full Select-and-Say control!
I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to have full Select-and-Say control. If you don't have that it inevitably will lead to tedious manual corrections afterwards. Auto Box© is the only solution that combines automatic transfers with genuine Dragon Select-and-Say control.
This latest Auto Box© version additionally has Transport feature (semi-automatic transfers), Targeting (application locking), Manual Modes (classical dictation box), an interesting standalone Autopunctuation feature, and various Commandline Switches. Auto Box© 8 is also extremely customizable, so you can thoroughly change the way it looks. In the near future we will add Localization as well. Just like the modules in SP 7 PRO you can then choose your own menu labels and translate the GUI into any language you like.
All of that for just 25 bucks. I think this is an absolute no-brainer
PS, associating a specific mode to a specific window handle is an excellent idea. We will look into that. If it can be done, we will do it. By the way, the Auto Box© 8 programmer should have contacted you by now.
Rob ------------------------- Turbocharge your Dragon productivity with 40+ Power Addons |
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Anyway, if you or Tom could consider building similar, or perhaps more comprehensive "format transfer" feature into a "Box", it would have its own value, even outside of voice community use. And without a doubt many voice users here would welcome such functionality, too. Just an off-the-cuff suggestion.
I'm not sure if this is what you are after, but this is what I have in my latest box: starting with something like:
Choosing the following menu item: will reformat the HTML code like the following: where you would simply transfer it to your target:
------------------------- Tom
Programmer Of SP 7 PRO (speechproductivity.eu) |
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For those not yet aware. Zen Editor© 8 Standalone version is now also permanently available for all Dragon users.
Version 8 is much more advanced than version 7 (currently featured in SP 7 Standard).
Although originally developed specifically for writers and novelists, Zen Editor© has become the voice ergonomic replacement for the Dragon unfriendly Notepad version in Windows 11!
Zen Editor© is highly versatile, feature-rich and extremely Dragon friendly! You can set Zen as your default editor for the following file types: txt, ahk, au3, bat, cs, c++, c, csv, cmd, dvc, htm, html, ini, log, reg, vbs, xml
The updated Zen Help file is permanently online so you can read all about it before purchasing it
https://speechproductivity.eu/ZenHelp/ ------------------------- Turbocharge your Dragon productivity with 40+ Power Addons |
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https://speechproductivity.eu/ZenHelp/
So can the Zen Editor run with dns 15.6 or dns 16 under Windows 10? ------------------------- Peter Sale |
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Hi Peter,
Zen Editor© 8 will run with any Dragon version. That's because most SP modules are standalone applications that don't rely on Dragon per se. They are merely optimized for Dragon.
That being said, Zen Editor© 8 is the much better alternative to Notepad. It's just as fast, much more ergonomic, highly Dragon accessible and much more feature-rich (including automatic and continuous backups). And, very important: it has the classic unlimited undo stack :-). ------------------------- Turbocharge your Dragon productivity with 40+ Power Addons |
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I'm not sure if this is what you are after, but this is what I have in my latest box: starting with something like: ... From the screenshots, Tom, it doesn't appear to do what I was referring to, unless there is functionality not conveyed by these screenshots. Using the functions (including the one by ChatGPT) published on that AHK forum thread linked above, I could copy some plain text into Windows Clipboard; "transform it" within Clipboard through the wrapping of HTML tags, and paste it into MS Word or my browser-based EHR as "WYSWYG" HTML text.
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No, I don't think that the auto box does that. I say I don't think, I didn't program that tool.
Here's another stab at what you're asking for. Of course, right now I'm just taking what I have at the moment, and showing what it's doing currently. I would have to consolidate if this is what you're after:
From the earlier screenshots, instead of transferring into notepad, I transferred what you are asking here into another tool. What is in the bottom box, is what gets transferred to the target application. ------------------------- Tom
Programmer Of SP 7 PRO (speechproductivity.eu) |
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👍^^^ I see - "rendering". If copying-and-pasting the rendered text into MS Word shows the same, WYSIWYG style, then that would seem to me to be ticket! I also see that it's from your "TopicNotes". Definitely you've got some nifty utilities tucked away or spread out over different toolboxes.
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