Hello

I messed up my arms, so I tried to find a way to code using voice. I have Windows 10 and Dragon 13 and I slavishly followed the instructions I found here: http://handsfreecoding.org/2014/10/26/getting-started-with-voice-coding/ With a bit of head scratching I got everything installed and running, but ran into a problem: braces, brackets, pipe etc. either don't appear at all, or they appear as the numbers they share a key with on the keyboard in the Finnish keyboard layout. When I change the keyboard layout to English, other kinds of weirdness happens.

 

If I go to Notepad and edit vois commands, a test command like this "Test command = "xx{hello[] | world}";" produces "xx[hello[] \ world]" with a US English keyboard layout and "xx7hello89 < world0" with Finnish one. This also happens when I use ready-made grammars for programming languages. For example the rule ""code block":           Text("{") + Key("enter")+ Key("enter") + Text("}")" in _cs_grammar.py suffers from this.

 

The region of my windows is set to Finnish and the language is set to US English.

 

Obviously this makes coding difficult, and I have no idea where to start figuring this out - especially because I don't know Python although I know very rusty Perl, Java et cetera.

Which keyboard layout are you using?

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As I said up there, I tried both the Finnish layout and the US English one, with slightly different results.

Sorry, I missed that. Going by the wrong replacements, this may be an Ansi vs. UNICODE encoding problem, although it is just a wild guess. In which application does this happen?

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So far it has happened in every application I have tried. As in Word, Notepad, Notepad++, etc. I also thought it might be something like that. Sounds like I might have to dive into the Python code, but I have no idea where to start looking for the right place to poke.

 

 

Which version of NatLink do you use? Which implementation (such as Vocola, Dragonfly etc.) do you use? - It may have to do with your Windows localization, but I am sorry that I can't be of any specific help. Quintijn should chime in, and I am sure that he is back from his holiday by now. I will send him a message.



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Oh, thank you for your help so far!

 

Here I'll reveal my level of noobness, because I'm not totally sure. I followed these instructions and installed whatever they instructed, so I guess I have Natlink 4.1victor and whatever versions of Vocoda 2 and Unimacro came with the combined installer. I'm not sure where to check the exact versions of the components.

 

http://qh.antenna.nl/unimacro/installation/installation.html

 

I installed Dragonfly from here: https://github.com/t4ngo/dragonfly

Quintijn said that he will be here soon, but it may not be as easy.


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Unfortunately, still no luck with this. I followed these instructions here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVEbAcxEPWY

So it looks like I have Python 2.7.14, pywin 2.7, natlink 4.1papa and dragonfly 0.6.6b1.

I wonder if updating to a later version would help with this, but I'm sure if I will download some versions and installed them, I will just break something. Any help with this?

I can't speak for Dragonfly, as I have never touched it, but the most recent NatLink installer is 4.1 Victor:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/natlink/  

Not sure whether this will resolve your particular issue, though, but you may want to give it a try anyway.

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Ah, yes, that's what I tried initially. No joy unfortunately :/

Okay, it looks like the problem is, the system doesn't know how to press the Alt Gr key. For example all the numbers in the Finnish output corresponding to the keys you are supposed to press together with Alt Gr. I checked Stack Overflow, and found one other situation like this, but with iPython. At least the problem is narrowed down now.

Sorry for jumping in only just now. Janoshon, can we discuss this in private email? q.hoogenboom@antenna.nl

We will share the conclusions on this forum again. It has nothing to do with recent or older versions of NatLink.

janoshon, what was the outcome here? I'm testing a new version of Vocola that may be better able to deal with these sorts of problems.