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Hi! I am disabled and trying to learn to use Dragon to navigate my computer 100%. I'm using Dragon Professional Individual 15 on Windows 10. 

With the number of times I have to use Dragon to click over the course of a day, it gets really frustrating to have to keep saying "mouse click," "mouse double click," and "mouse right click." I wish I could make a command so that I only have to say, for example, "click" for left click, or something like "dub" for double click. 

I called the Dragon helpline, and they said that I can't use Macro Recorder to make the mouse click commands, because the recorder records the position where you click, not just the act of clicking. They said I would need to know advanced scripting to write the mouse commands.

I have absolutely no idea how to do that! So if anyone on this forum could help me out, I would be incredibly grateful!

--Mark

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In the dropdown menu where you set the command to "Macro", choose "Advanced Script", and put in this code

Sub Main
ButtonClick
End Sub


See https://www.nuance.com/products/help/dragon/dragon-for-pc/scriptref/Content/scrptref/buttonclick.htm
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Thank you so so much Grindcore for this script, it worked perfectly and was so easy to make a new mouse command. I also followed the link that you posted and figured out easily how to do a command for right click and double-click. At first it seemed to be a little slow, but then I think it picked up in speed?

I'm so surprised that it turned out to be so easy--when I called Nuance they made it sound like it would be really complicated. It's surprising to me that Nuance doesn't have better tech support-- surely that's the kind of thing that a Nuance tech support person should be able to help you out with??

Anyway, I am incredibly happy that this forum exists, it's really amazing for people trying to use Dragon who don't know a lot about computers! Thanks again!

 

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Originally posted by: mtaylor ...when I called Nuance they made it sound like it would be really complicated. It's surprising to me that Nuance doesn't have better tech support-- surely that's the kind of thing that a Nuance tech support person should be able to help you out with??...


We are not surprised that Nuance outsourced level one technical support who couldn't answer this question. Nuance has ordered technical support NOT to answer Advanced-Scripting questions. Nuance tech-support is only permitted to assist you with step-by-step, Macro Recorder and Text & Graphics commands. Of course, considering that level one technical support doesn't actually use Dragon, you are probably not in any danger of receiving a qualified answer anyway. You will find far more Advanced-Scripting assistance in the Dragon Help menu, this forum and Larry Allen's Scripting for Dragon (the Bible of Dragon scripting).



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"Mouse Click" is a very silly command to use repeatedly. Someone provided me with a command to use both "Click" and "Touch" (not my copyright to pass on). Click requires facial contortions that Touch does not require. Frequently repeated commands need to be distinct to avoid misfires but also need to be easy to say. Dragon's most ridiculous command, as far as I know, is "Click Type Text" which is challenging even for the soberest of individuals. The CEO of Nuance ought to be sent into a room to speak repeat Click Type Text and Mouse Click one hundred times over to get a feeling for client anguish.
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The CEO of Nuance ought to be sent into a room to speak repeat Click Type Text and Mouse Click one hundred times over to get a feeling for client anguish.

 

And it should be video taped and shown all over.

You should see some of the Spanish commands and I am sure others would say the same with the other languages available.

 

Originally posted by: sterlingtimes "Mouse Click" is a very silly command to use repeatedly. Someone provided me with a command to use both "Click" and "Touch" (not my copyright to pass on)

 

Any possibility of asking if you could provide the command. That would be awesome.

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Thanks for the "touch" suggestion, I think that is a great idea, and seems like an easier word to say than "click"!

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What does "click type text" do?

I don't see a problem with "mouse click" - it's only two syllables, and fairly intuitive (as Dragon commands go).

There may be unintended side effects if the command was "click," or if you decide to script a "touch" command. Monosyllabic words and commands are more easily misrecognized than polysyllabic utterances. After a few misfires, you may find yourself reverting to two and three syllable commands.

Perhaps the real issue is that mouse emulation is time-consuming without the use of numbering add-ons. But be aware that mouse emulation is significantly less efficient than other techniques. It's good to know alternative techniques that don't involve moving the pointer and clicking small targets.

For example, in a web browser, you can often activate a clickable screen object by saying "click" plus the label as it appears on the screen. On this forum, you can activate the "Report this to a Moderator" link by saying "click report this to a Moderator."

In some contexts, it's not even necessary to read the entire text. You could also say "click report this", "click Moderator", and so on. In any case, the technique does not involve moving the mouse pointer by even one pixel.
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Originally posted by: Alan Cantor What does "click type text" do? I don't see a problem with "mouse click" - it's only two syllables, and fairly intuitive (as Dragon commands go). There may be unintended side effects if the command was "click," or if you decide to script a "touch" command. Monosyllabic words and commands are more easily misrecognized than polysyllabic utterances. After a few misfires, you may find yourself reverting to two and three syllable commands. Perhaps the real issue is that mouse emulation is time-consuming without the use of numbering add-ons. But be aware that mouse emulation is significantly less efficient than other techniques. It's good to know alternative techniques that don't involve moving the pointer and clicking small targets. For example, in a web browser, you can often activate a clickable screen object by saying "click" plus the label as it appears on the screen. On this forum, you can activate the "Report this to a Moderator" link by saying "click report this to a Moderator." In some contexts, it's not even necessary to read the entire text. You could also say "click report this", "click Moderator", and so on. In any case, the technique does not involve moving the mouse pointer by even one pixel.

 

This is a good posting, Alan. I agree with all of this.

 

"Click Type Text" isn't fully explained by Dragon but it is a command like "click link" that highlights all instances of a particular HTML type. Owing to the instability of Google Chrome's Dragon extension, I no longer use these commands.

 

I do agree that numbering systems serve to avoid "mouse click" type commands. 

 

I think we all get misfires on simplistic commands, but this depends very much upon the type of work that we do. I would rarely use the word "touch" other than as a command, for instance.

 

My most hated misfires are 1 (one, won), 2 (two, to, too), 3 (three, free), 4 (four, fore, for), all are introduced by navigational numbering systems. Also commands such as above, below, and send (which is demonstrably dangerous!). "Clause" can be misheard as "close".

 

A fellow poster on this board uses the expression "ergonomic commands", i.e. they are designed to be easy to speak without oral contortions.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Originally posted by: Alan Cantor  I don't see a problem with "mouse click" - it's only two syllables, and fairly intuitive (as Dragon commands go). There may be unintended side effects if the command was "click," or if you decide to script a "touch" command. Monosyllabic words and commands are more easily misrecognized than polysyllabic utterances. After a few misfires, you may find yourself reverting to two and three syllable commands. Perhaps the real issue is that mouse emulation is time-consuming without the use of numbering add-ons. But be aware that mouse emulation is significantly less efficient than other techniques. It's good to know alternative techniques that don't involve moving the pointer and clicking small targets. For example, in a web browser, you can often activate a clickable screen object by saying "click" plus the label as it appears on the screen. On this forum, you can activate the "Report this to a Moderator" link by saying "click report this to a Moderator." In some contexts, it's not even necessary to read the entire text. You could also say "click report this", "click Moderator", and so on. In any case, the technique does not involve moving the mouse pointer by even one pixel.

 

If you can manually move your mouse but you cannot click (like with RSI related issues) and you enjoy playing a card game or something similar control wise, you can end up in situations where 95% of your spoken commands are "click mouse", and then it's definitely a huge relief to create a "click" command. "Click mouse" is intuitive, but if its a command you use super frequently you can kind of pick anything you want as name because it will be second nature to you regardless if it's used at that frequency. So if misfires from the single syllable really are an issue I'd rename it to "alfa", which is easier to pronounce (the k sound takes more effort, alfa requires almost no tongue or lip movement compared to click or beta etc) and easy to recognize accurately, and not being the first word of longer commands.

 

I agree with you for fully controlling your entire computer purposes though. I'm just pointing out some niche situations where I think you should definitely make the click command as lazy as possible for yourself.



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Originally posted by: Grindcore 

 

 

If you can manually move your mouse but you cannot click (like with RSI related issues) and you enjoy playing a card game or something similar control wise, you can end up in situations where 95% of your spoken commands are "click mouse" 

 

You know the issue, Grindcore. I am in that group of people who can move a specialist mouse (Handshoe) but where clicking with the fingers is intensely painful. I have found many workarounds over the years, but nothing really beats the number navigational programs. 

 

It would be disconcerting in the extreme having suffered finger RSI to end up with oral RSI (-:

 

 



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"Click Type Text" isn't fully explained by Dragon but it is a command like "click link" that highlights all instances of a particular HTML type.


I forgot about that one! Then I remembered that I had stopped using it because the "click box" command acts on text fields, drop down lists, check boxes, and maybe something else. So a single command replaces several others, which means less to remember!

The number of HTML-related commands can be, I think, reduced to five: click box, click link, click button, click image, and click radio.



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If you can manually move your mouse but you cannot click (like with RSI related issues) and you enjoy playing a card game or something similar control wise, you can end up in situations where 95% of your spoken commands are "click mouse", and then it's definitely a huge relief to create a "click" command.


Some games, as mouse-intensive as they appear to be, can be driven entirely via keyboard. Microsoft's Spider Solitaire is a perfect example, and other Microsoft games from that era were also fully keyboard accessible.

And if a game can be driven by keyboard, chances are good it can be played efficiently by voice commands - without the need for mouse emulation.

I no longer have Spider Solitaire on my computer, so I can't confirm which keys it used: my recollection was that most actions were performed with only three keys: left and right arrow, space bar, and perhaps Enter. A function key started a new game, and "H" got you a hint.

Check the Help system for your favourite game and search for keywords like "keyboard" or "hotkey." If the game is driven by the four arrow keys, you could use built-in Dragon commands like "move left," "move up," etc. You would likely want to add custom commands so you can say things like "left [number]" and "right [number]" to move several steps per command.
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I have a specialized vocab for heavy mouse-intensive processes. In that one,

dah = click
dahdah = double click
rah = right click
kah = control click
shah = shift click

In that environment, I also use:

bue = enter
stue = shift enter
chue = control enter
eck = escape
teb = tab (I know, but trust me, its better)

By the way, these commands are excellent for eye- or dot-tracker mice (like the free ones) that don't implement dwell clicking as well as you'd like (and as you see with the pay-for ones).

And NOTE: No need to add these words to your custom vocab, Dragon knows to add them to its command vocabulary without it being a in-the-dictionary-or-back-up-dictionary word. Feel free to train it in the command browser if you need to.

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Originally posted by: PG LTU I In that one, dah = click dahdah = double click rah = right click kah = control click shah = shift cl

 

PG, on first viewing your posting looks ridiculous. But, it is actually brilliant. I have added some of that logic into my command set. Many thanks, Stephen.  

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I'm going to test PG's phonetics :-) looks interesting.

 

It may be better to create a DVC list command for this. It really is faster than Advanced Scripting.

 

"Touch" indeed is much more ergonomic then "Click" and helps avoid voice strain. Compare these two while speaking them a couple of hundred times an hour and you'll know what I mean.

 

The most ergonomic command name for a double-click would be "Double"

 

You can extend this DVC list command with some of PG's phonetics (make sure to also create the list)

 

If _arg1 = "Touch" then ButtonClick 1, 1

If _arg1 = "Double" then ButtonClick 1,2

If _arg1 = "Touch Right" then ButtonClick 2,1

 

 

Similarly, compare the built in "press space" or "scroll down" command for paging down in your browser (while doing extensive internet searches) with this one:

 

sssjjj

 

SendKeys "{Space}"

 

You won't even have to use your vocal cords. Train the command first.

Compare that with saying "press space" (or even "Space") when you utter the commands a couple of hundred times an hour.

Make sure to use a DVC command here as well.

 

For those interested in creating fast and ergonomic DVC Voice commands I recommend the Easy Guide to Dragon Scripting



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dah-di-dah-dit dah-dah-di-dah

Dah works very well. I am a little suspicious that PG's idea came from morse keying rather than mouse keying.
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I like the idea of:

kah = control click
shah = shift click

But what are the underlying commands? By Googling it looks like "Type Shift Mouse Click" and "Type Control Mouse Click" Which both actually work. Do HeardWord expressions need to be implanted in the commands or is there a better way?
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Stephen,

 

You may try this DVC Command (and do something similar with Ctrl) but it may not work properly on Windows 10 anymore:

 

ShiftKey 1,1

ButtonClick 1,1

ShiftKey 1,0

 

For some reason the HeardWord commands don't work properly on my system anymore either. It's probably better to use the VoiceComputer Control click and Shift click Numbers commands

 

 



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If it doesn't work on a platform (I am on Win 8.1 right now and can't check Win 10) you can always ShellExecute out from DVC to another script to hold down the keyboard mod buttons, then do the ButtonClick, and then ShellExecute out to release the mods. Since Rob gave you Shift-Click, here is my Ctrl-Click:


' ShiftKey 2,1 ' Native Ctrl hold
ShellExecute "pgStuff.ahk keyControl CD", 6 ' uses ahk to hold _C_trl _D_own
ButtonClick 1,1
ShellExecute "pgStuff.ahk keyControl CU", 6 ' uses ahk to hold _C_trl _U_p
' ShiftKey 2,0 ' Native Ctrl release


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Thank you PG and Rob. The HeardWords do not work, but Rob's command works and PG's as follows:

ShiftKey 2,1
ButtonClick 1,1
ShiftKey 2,0

So that gives me Dah, Rah, Shah and Khah.

The Bue conflicts with Rob's Glue.

These ergonomic commands are silly, but they are memorable and work very well.



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I recommend trying voiceless consonants to click. For example the "sh" "ch", "f", or "s" sound.
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Hello,

I am tetraplegic so I am in a similar position to Mark, the OP. The command I need would do the following:

 

hold down Alt

single click on the left mouse button

release both

 

this sequence is commonly used in photo editing software to select an area for cloning and I have been trying to use the information in this thread, plus Dragon help for advanced scripting, to come up with a solution. Unfortunately I don't know anything about scripting and I can't get the syntax right. I would be extremely grateful if someone here could help.

 

 

On the subject of the command "mouseclick" I think I have stumbled upon a suitable word. It is short and sharp, it contains only one syllable, yet at the same time it contains phonemes which help to prevent misfires.

 

The word is, "Bitch".

 

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Our 1st recommendation would be to download and install the complementary copy of KnowBrainer 2017 which we just sent to the email address you used to join this forum. KnowBrainer will add a good deal of command functionality to Dragon including the ability to hold down Windows, Control, Shift, Alt and Space keys. We are not familiar with your photo editing application but we're thinking that you can say something like Alt Hold Down to hold down the Alt key followed by saying Left Click to mouse Left Click. You can then say Alt Release to release the Alt key. It's not exactly what you asked for but a possible workaround.

Another workaround is the KnowBrainer patented VerbalBasic command technology that will allow you to write a simple Mouse Position command in about 2 seconds. Let's use Photoshop for the following example. If we want to click the Crop button, all we have to do is position our mouse over the Crop button, which can be performed with Dragon's mouse grid command. Then we would say New Mouse Command <crop> which will create a new Photoshop application-specific command, name the command crop, move the cursor to the scripting section, paste the X & Y coordinates into the scripting field, add a left mouse click and save your command; significantly faster than we can explain the procedure.



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Hello Lunis,
thank you so much for your advice and the download. I suspect your first suggestion will provide the answer I need and I very much look forward to exploring the potential of KnowBrainer!
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A note of appreciation for this thread.

One of my biggest Dragon frustrations was having to use the mouse click command repeatedly. So now I've been able to set up - left mouse click=lah; right mouse click=rah, left mouse double-click=tahdah. Much easier on the vocal cords.
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Small update: You don't need to use the word “mouse” to Left Click, Right Click or Middle Click 

 



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Even games that rely heavily on mouse are possible:

https://www.screencast.com/t/huAmTODUO

This is achieved by having the coordinates permanently displayed physically at the edge of my monitors.



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Very excited to have found this forum. Does anyone know how to create an automatic function to click on a certain part of a web page. I work with a very old website that requires me to enter a report in a box and then click on a button that says sign and fax which is below the Box where I entered the report. I've tried navigating this with the mouse grid but it is horribly inaccurate and time-consuming. Is there a way to make a automatic command Mouse grid that will go to the same spot each time. I don't know how to set up a sequential Mouse grid selection in the commands. So that hypothetically would end up on the same spot each time and then I could click the button. Does anyone else have any other ideas on how to navigate this

When I try using the tab function it does not end up on the box I don't know how the box is coated. I appreciate everyone's help in advance good
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                    Welcome To the World's Only Remaining Speech Recognition Forum

KnowBrainer 2017 (third party command utility) which you will find in our signature tag, includes exactly what you're looking for. Just place your mouse over the button, control or field you wish to click into and say New Mouse Command<sign and fax> . KnowBrainer will copy the precise Mouse Position to Windows clipboard, create a new browser application specific command, name the command “Sign and Fax” (notice the Title Case), paste the X and Y coordinates into the code field, add a mouse left click and save your command. We call this Automatic VerbalBasic. The entire process takes just under 3 seconds and requires no VB scripting knowledge. This command was written for Donald Trump.


You can optionally create a Mouse Position command in Dragon but it would require more steps. Most reposition commands are also possible but as you noted, a waste of time.



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Well I downloaded the software, and it looks very impressive. But I can't seem to get it to work. I open the program I place my mouse over the button and said new mouse command sign and fax and nothing happened. am I supposed to have clicked Add command in the software? Or what button Or settings should I be pressing in the knowbrainer software for this to work.
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also im confused when i have dragon open how do i get the programmed new commands to work? so if i name the command sign and fax do i then say command sign and fax to do the function?
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KnowBrainer is entirely hands-free so there is no button to press. It would simply defeat the purpose.

 

We assume you are referring to downloading and installing KnowBrainer 2017 but… Did you also follow the secondary KnowBrainer step of installing and running the Commands Updater? Otherwise you are using KnowBrainer 4 year old technology. If you have updated KnowBrainer, the 1st global command will be <%> KB Build 02-07-2020 rather than <1st_9th> Desktop.

If you are using the latest KnowBrainer commands, begin by mouse clicking into your your application to bring it into focus. Now hover your mouse over the Sign & Fax button and say New Mouse Command <sign and fax> (don't pronounce the angle brackets). The process takes just under 3 seconds.

After you have created your Sign and Fax command, simply say it when your application is in focus. It sounds like you are over complicating this procedure. KnowBrainer commands work exactly like Dragon commands; only more efficiency



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PG, for your commands dah, dahdah, rah, sha, did you bind them to Dragon scripting commands or DVC commands using these functions

 

ShiftKey 2,1
ButtonClick 1,1
ShiftKey 2,0

 

Or did you bind them to Dragon->AHK external commands?

 

Do you know if there are postings in the forum on "complete" sets of these voice tips? Even though I've been on the forum for years, it always seems to me that the tips and solutions show up in piecemeal fashion. I am imagining a complete list of utterances, mouse clicks, moves, and drags would be most helpful if it was all in one place.



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Exactly. For me they are DVC commands both in the command browser and also in my system.dvc file Asleep mode commands.

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Hmmm. Sorry, I don't understand. What does "system.dvc file Asleep mode commands" mean? I've never heard of Asleep mode commands or a system.dvc file... Thank you

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Originally posted by: kkkwj Hmmm. Sorry, I don't understand. What does "system.dvc file Asleep mode commands" mean? I've never heard of Asleep mode commands or a system.dvc file... Thank you

Look at How to Change Dragon Wakeup Commands in the Quick Tips:  http://www.knowbrainer.com/index.cfm/wiki/knowbrainer-quick-tips/

Basicallly, the command for waking up Dragon is stored in the system.dvc file, which uses the old Dragon syntax.  It can be edited, if done carefully.  (I don't do this, myself.)

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The system.dvc file is located in the C:\ProgramData\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking15\Data\Enx\dvcu\general\ folder. When you are prompted for an application to open it, choose Notepad. However, you should make a backup 1st because if you are not familiar with the system.dvc, it's easy to muck it up.



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does this work for version DPI 15?re">

 



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Thanks Matt and Lunis. I'll peek into the file and see what I can see.

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can anyone please advise a newbie? When I open up administrative settings in Dragon, there is no other tab to allow me to enter in any scripts. It looks like I'm missing tabs in the administrative settings? Is there a way to enable them? I would really appreciate it because I'm so tired of saying "MOUSE CLICK"!!!!!!

I'm using Dragon home version 13.0 for Windows 7

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                   Welcome (See Mission Statement)

 

In our opinion, even Home Edition 15 is trash. Home Edition is an extremely limited Dragon sampler that you can't even upgrade from. Even worse, you cannot take any of your work with you, like you can every other edition of Dragon. We're guessing you made the mistake of purchasing from Nuance and in this highly specialized business, that's a no-no. Dragon should only be purchased from a professional who uses Dragon and can support you with complimentary manuals, remote support etc. Nuance outsources their support to a group of friendly people in India, who have never used Dragon. We strongly recommend starting over with the real deal DPI 15.3. In our opinion, you will not be satisfied with the Home Edition which is also 2 versions out of date.



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thanks for responding. I've been using Dragon for years without any problem. I'm just asking how I can put in this script so I can say "click" instead of "mouse click"

is it possible to do with the version I have?

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Originally posted by: mrjordan thanks for responding. I've been using Dragon for years without any problem. I'm just asking how I can put in this script so I can say "click" instead of "mouse click"

 

is it possible to do with the version I have?

 

thank you

 

 

It's possible with any version, which version do you have? Reading the above thread from Lunis it looks like you have HOME edition?

 

The built-in Dragon commands:

 

mouse click
mouse double click
mouse left click
mouse right click

 

with most versions apart from home they are accessible via the Command Browser in a DVC command called "mouse <mouseaction>". All you have to do is rename that command to <mouseaction>"

 

If you are using home then just click on the signature below and I will tell you how to do with home.

 

 



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thank you @monkey8
yes home version 13
In command browser I dont see "mouse "" anywhere. 

I do see "mouse click" under "Context: dragon voice dictation commands" tab, but I dont see where to edit it. Right clicking on it only allows me to "train" or "filter" or "context"
Can you help? I did click on your link which takes me to your website...please advise

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can anyone help with this? I would really appreciate it because of my problem with cubital tunnel syndrome. Thank you
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Yes, with Home Edition your options are quite limited. If your carpal tunnel syndrome is quite bad, you probably should invest in the latest full-featured version (DPI 15.3) because besides scripting built-in, the whole product works better for most folks.

Anyway, pls do what Lindsay aka monkey8 says, & click his sig link and go to the contact page to find a contact form or email address (I think it's support@pcbyvoice.com ) where you should remind him of your issue and mention which ver of Dragon you use. Good luck.



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try click right click left or mouse right, mouse left

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