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Topic Title: DMO with CPRS
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Created On: 02/04/2022 08:01 PM
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 DMO with CPRS   - psy1 - 02/04/2022 08:01 PM  
 DMO with CPRS   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/05/2022 04:07 PM  
 DMO with CPRS   - psy1 - 02/05/2022 07:31 PM  
 DMO with CPRS   - Mav - 02/07/2022 02:57 AM  
 DMO with CPRS   - ax - 02/06/2022 10:50 PM  
 DMO with CPRS   - jacklenin - 02/15/2022 03:35 AM  
 DMO with CPRS   - jacklenin - 02/15/2022 06:12 PM  
 DMO with CPRS   - dilligence - 02/15/2022 10:03 PM  
 DMO with CPRS   - NiptheZephyr - 06/21/2022 09:36 PM  
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psy1
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I am used to regular Dragon Medical and just now starting with DMO at a VA clinic using CPRS as the medical record. I have a couple of questions:

How do you code for a Left-Click in the Step-By-Step commands?

A useful new feature in DMO with Variable Fields is the ability to add text after the default value as a guide, e.g. [Improved | Worsening, Improving]. In that case the default value is Improved but the words after the "|" are simply reminders of other things to say, or maybe FYI instructions. After saying Accept Defaults, [Improved | Worsening, Improving] becomes: Improved. 

The issue is that the "|" creates errors when included in a CPRS template because the "|" character is used in CPRS Patient Data Objects. DMO allows changing field delimiters but as far as I know does not allow changing the "|". One workaround is to open the template, then dictate an autotext that includes the "|" but that gets cumbersome and I would like to have all of my larger boilerplate stuff as a CPRS template. So the question is how to get around the "|" error in CPRS templates. Anybody know? Thanks.

 02/05/2022 04:07 PM
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We don't believe this option exists. Nuance had to sacrifice 75% of DMPE 4.3.1's functionality in order to make DMO work. We suggested that Nuance give away a complimentary copy of DMPE 4.3.1 when customers sign onto the DMO lease but so far no luck

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 02/05/2022 07:31 PM
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Thanks for the reply. That is what I figured. 

A coule of comments about Dragon One and CPRS:

CPRS would be so much better if the forms included keyboard shortcuts for everything. I can't find any reference for the keyboard shortcuts and many are hidden or non-existant.

As for DMO:

DMO has a horrible Step-By-Step command editor.

I can't find any way to document the commands.

I cant find anyway to "expand all" to show all the steps.

I can't find a way to chain commands, e.g. {Down}20 and instead have 20 consecutive Down commands.

And there is no way to export commands so that they can be shared among users. 

 

If anyone knows solutions to those issues, I would appreciate advice!

 02/07/2022 02:57 AM
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While unfortunetely there's no remedy for most of your points, sharing DMO commands is indeed possible, it's just something the end user cannot do alone.

 

Someone with administrative access to the Nuance Management Center for your organization can share user commands with other users, user groups or even the whole organization.

 

The same holds true for custom words, btw.

 

hth

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 02/06/2022 10:50 PM
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 02/15/2022 03:35 AM
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jacklenin
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I have this kludgy script to mouse right click that you can put in a vbs that DMO can call. Still working on leftclick solution - probably AutoHotKey or AutoIt will work.
 
On Error Resume Next
Set WshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.shell")
WshShell.Visible = False
WshShell.SendKeys("+{F10}")
 
These key codes (marked X in the table below) work when used as key values in a Press Keys command - but unfortunately the Left and Right click commands do not appear to work (and, I presume, the Middle button). I've not tested the unmarked ones. Most of these marked commands will also work as Hotkey commands. Maybe most useful is the Windows key below. Sorry it's long.
 

    Physical Key

    Press Keys

     

    BACKSPACE

    {BACKSPACE} or {BS}

    X

    BREAK

    {BREAK}

     

    CAPS LOCK

    {CAPSLOCK}

     

    SCROLL LOCK

    {SCROLLLOCK}

     

    UP ARROW

    {UP}

    X

    DOWN ARROW

    {DOWN}

    X

    LEFT ARROW

    {LEFT}

    X

    RIGHT ARROW

    {RIGHT}

    X

    DELETE or DEL

    {DELETE} or {DEL}

    X

    INSERT

    {INSERT}

     

    HOME

    {HOME}

    X

    END

    {END}

    X

    PAGE UP

    {PGUP}

    X

    PAGE DOWN

    {PGDN}

    X

    RETURN

    {RETURN}

     

    ENTER

    {ENTER}

    X

    ESC

    {ESCAPE} or {ESC}

    X

    HELP

    {HELP}

     

    TAB

    {TAB}

     

    F1-F24

    {F1} through {F24}

    X

    ADD

    {ADD}

     

    SUBTRACT

    {SUBTRACT}

     

    MULTIPLY

    {MULTIPLY}

     

    DIVIDE

    {DIVIDE}

     

    DECIMAL

    {DECIMAL}

     

    SEPARATOR

    {SEPARATOR}

     

    SPACE

    {SPACE}

    X

    SELECT

    {SELECT}

     

    PRINT

    {PRINT}

     

    EXECUTE

    {EXECUTE} or {EXEC}

     

    SNAPSHOT

    {SNAPSHOT}

     

    CANCEL

    {CANCEL}

     

    WINDOWS

    {WINDOWS} or {WIN}

    X

    APPLICATIONS

    {APPLICATIONS} or {APPS}

     

    LBUTTON

    {LBUTTON} or {LBTN}

    ---

    RBUTTON

    {RBUTTON} or {RBTN}

    ---

    MBUTTON

    {MBUTTON} or {MBTN}

    ---

    CLEAR

    {CLEAR}

     

    NUMPAD0

    {NUMPAD0} or {NP0}

     

    NUMPAD1

    {NUMPAD1} or {NP1}

     

    NUMPAD2

    {NUMPAD2} or {NP2}

     

    NUMPAD3

    {NUMPAD3} or {NP3}

     

    NUMPAD4

    {NUMPAD4} or {NP4}

     

    NUMPAD5

    {NUMPAD5} or {NP5}

     

    NUMPAD6

    {NUMPAD6} or {NP6}

     

    NUMPAD7

    {NUMPAD7} or {NP7}

     

    NUMPAD8

    {NUMPAD8} or {NP8}

     

    NUMPAD9

    {NUMPAD9} or {NP9}

     



 02/15/2022 06:12 PM
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jacklenin
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AutoHotKey script Mouse click.ahk to click the left mouse button:

Click, Left

 02/15/2022 10:03 PM
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dilligence
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Here are standalone left and right-click 64-bit executables created with WinBatch®. You can load them into DMO via step-by-step.

 

Faster approaches like AHK and particularly Quick Macros are possible but those executables have a tendency to get falsely flagged by AVs. WinBatch® executables are usually trusted better: 

 

https://mega.nz/file/2dVHiQAD#o99lOxH9QaTlKvrPDWzxj_9kuU5XGg1QRBOpxIPm81E



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 06/21/2022 09:36 PM
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OMG, thank you for this jacklenin. I'm used to advanced scripting and this opens up a world more since I can now use the apps key. Also, it looks like putting a number in the curly brackets lets it press numerous times like any normal SendKey command.

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