Hi all,
For a while now it has bothered me that I don't know the names of the areas on dialogue boxes.

I have a script for what I refer to as the address bar, which also works on browsers, but find myself having to use that and then rely on the tab order to get to the left side column and the main window area. Obviously I can dictate by voice for filename and save as type.

I was going to post a picture of a dialogue box, but when I did it was huge and I couldn't work out how to resize it in here. It appeared much larger when I posted it in here than it appears on my screen when I use the command to copy it Alt+PrtSc.
So if anyone can answer this as well that would be helpful, for future use.

Thanks in advance,
Gareth

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The general rule to navgiate to a target in a dialog box by voice is to say "click" + the label of the field or control you want to activate. For example, "click File Name", "click New Folder," "click Open", etc.

 

Whatever I say just gets typed in as the file name, whether I prefix it with click or not.

The only words I can dictate to select are any that appear in the address bar/cookie trail? (Unless I first leave the file name text entry box)

I notice your box doesn't have the left-sided column like mine:

That's because Alan probably changed Explorer View to not show the Navigation Pane (Organize --> Layout --> Navigation Pane).

 

Sadly there is no quick way to set the focus to the main folder section in Save as dialogs in Windows Explorer. The best you can do is say "press tab" (maybe repeat that command depending on your Explorer view) to shift the focus there. 

 

Another option would be to use a program like VoiceComputer for direct access to that section (the Lite version will do).

 

Yet another option would be to create a mouse position command to set the focus to the main folder section. However, if at some point you resize the window or maximize it, that mouse position command may no longer be accurate.

Well, one would then think. I will simply make it always show maximized (by double-clicking the title bar). But sadly Windows has a tendency to reset the default state on its own on a regular basis :-(. 

 

It's a small, but annoying issue for sure. I wish Microsoft would by default set the focus to the main folder section in dialogs by default.

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Yes, I changed the view of File Explorer to always hide the Navigation pane. I've got other ways to navigate that don't gobble up a substantial portion of the window's real estate!

 

 

This is a good time to use the "Mouse Window" command. Saying "Mouse Window... 5... click" usually puts focus into the list of files and folders.

 

 

I find the issue more than annoying. I would characterize it as an accessibility and usability failure. The behaviour you describe was the default before Windows 7. 

I used to report these kinds of problems to Microsoft, but I stopped when I realized nobody at Microsoft was paying attention to me!

This is a bit convoluted but if you paste your screenshot into Microsoft Word, you can resize it and then take another snapshot of your resized picture for posting here

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