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Created On: 12/13/2020 11:54 AM
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 12/13/2020 11:54 AM
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I have used dragon medical practice on multiple machines. I have a small intel mini pc with 8th gen "u" mobile processor i7, same as the laptops, where the experience is just not good, even though this should be more than enough. Lags, errors, just frustrating. 

wanting to upgrade to the newest intel i5,7,or 9 non mobile chip computer and have a desire to get the best setup as possible given the one I have was supposed to be high end. 

thing is that these 10th gen intel processors the highest base clock is the i5, not i9. It's the higher thread count/cores that go up.

Any idea if this is worthwhile? Or will I actually do worse with the lower single core clock speeds

for example i5 $670, i7 $770, i9 860 

 12/13/2020 06:12 PM
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I don't think you'll be able to notice the difference at all for running Dragon. The extra threads can help if you're multitasking (such as synchronizing OneDrive or Dropbox all the time) or constantly fetching from the disk (or doing other tasks at the OS level). But for normal computing, clock speed is just not noticeable. One of the issues is that your throughput speed (which is noticeable) depends on a whole chain of handoffs between disk, memory, clock speeds, RAM, cache, I/O speeds, I/O interrupts, SSDs, and so on. It's easy to drop clock cycles in real life, which means the number on the box is not usually worth talking about. Anything close should work fine, I think. I've upgraded from i5 to i7 to a 16-thread Ryzen 3700X and have hardly noticed any improvements in normal processing. (However, when I simultaneously upgraded my hard disks to SSDs, to M2 SSDs, plus some SSD Keeper caching software, that was noticable.


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 12/13/2020 07:00 PM
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In addition to Kevin's sage advice, the i5 usually has best single core performance. 

Consider that NaturallySpeaking is mostly a single core application.


In my experience CPU Boss has always been very helpful comparing the different processor specs. 


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 01/06/2021 04:20 AM
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I will add one thing, that qualifies earlier statements that I have made on this forum about the Surface Pro X in case you have seen them.

Unfortunately, after around a year of using it, and increasing my voice commands from around 2000 to around 3000, I am seeing significant slowing in performance.

While still quite good, side by side with a traditional laptop, I'm getting significantly faster performance on the laptop. Straight dictation does not show this, but voice command throughput is what suffers.

This is likely due to the numbers of voice commands and their structures, all largely being step by step, and in some cases having 10-20 steps.

It is still a very handy device, and so easy to carry and plug into monitors and use as a desktop replacement, and I hate that it is simply not faster managing the commands.

I'm reverting back to my Dell laptop that I've been using.

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