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If I bought DPI 15 from KnowBrainer, should I have recently received an email with a link to the installation manual now that DPI 15.6 has been received? 

I haven't received such an email.

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Will 15.6 be released for DMPE?



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mppcarey,

 

Nuance doesn't give out ETA's on anything 



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First Freeze with DPI 15.6

 

I just had my first freeze with DPI 15.6 which I installed earlier today without any reported problems. When I was previously using DPI 15.3 I found that it was very unwise to have Microsoft outlook open while I dictated into another program. The reason was that just having Microsoft outlook open while I was working with DPI 15.3 and dictating into a different program would produce freeze after freeze. The freezing was a problem for many months.

Today I worked for approximately 4 hours with DPI 15.6 while Microsoft outlook was open but was not being used. I was working with Microsoft Word, Microsoft edge, and several PDF files. I had noticed that DPI 15.6 was starting to become somewhat slower in operation and was starting to shut things down for the day and had closed all of the PDF files.

When I gave a command to open an Internet site, Microsoft outlook either closed itself or was crashed by DPI 15.6. I had the task manager open and observed that even after Microsoft outlook no longer appeared as open on the taskbar both it and the spelling window of DPI 15.6 were each using slightly more than 19% of my CPU during the freeze. After the freeze ended, Microsoft outlook vanished from the task manager screen.


There still is something negative occurring between Microsoft outlook and DPI 15.6. Just having Microsoft outlook open while I worked in different programs resulted in the freeze that crashed Microsoft outlook and resulted in the task manager showing that both Microsoft Outlook and the spelling window of DPI 15.6 were each using slightly more than 19% of the CPU each.

 

The Microsoft Outlook that I use is part of Microsoft 365. The Microsoft 365 program was reinstalled by a Microsoft technician just a few days ago because the use of DPI 15.3 seem to have corrupted the previous installation of 365. The technician found it necessary to manually uninstall the old 365 and reinstall the suite again. Before the above freeze, DPI 15.6 was working absolutely perfectly and seemed to execute commands more rapidly than before.

Dell XPS computer purchase July 2019

CPU:       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700 CPU @ 3.00GHz- turbo mode up to 3.7 GHz

Cores / Threads: 8 / 8

Cache:          2048 KB L2 / 12288 KB L3

Physical Memory: 32573 GB Total / 25899 GB Available / 20 % Used

Operating System:     Microsoft Windows 10 Home

OS Platform:    Win32NT

OS Version:     6.2.9200.0

OS Language:    en-US

 

 

 

 



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I realize they do not give out ETA. By chance have you been testing the dragon medical personal edition with 15.6? I think you might be able to answer that one.



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Lunis,

Any idea when and where i can download the DPI 15.6 german version? I have downloaded the file you provided. But i can't upgrade with it (Error: "An upgrade of the currently installed version is not possible...") and if you uninstall DPI 15.3 beforehand, it will only install the english version.



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Thanks for providing the download, Lunis! That's very kind of you, and I greatly appreciate it (as I'm sure many others do).

The upgrade from 15.3 ran smoothly. I'm not sure why it insisted on rebooting the computer just to run the installer. That's not something I've ever seen before, with any product. And lo and behold, when I did that, it asked to reboot again when I reran setup.exe, which I must admit I simply ignored.

It's bizarre that in 2020, Nuance insist on opening Internet Explorer to register their product, instead of the default browser!

My only regret is that I didn't have access to this version while I was writing my doctoral dissertation. I found 15.3 to be barely usable in Microsoft Word due to the limitation of only being able to have one document open at a time. So in this respect alone, this version promises to be a massive usability improvement.

On the other hand, like other programs I rely on (EndNote, Adobe Acrobat), NaturallySpeaking 15.6 still struggles with large Word documents, i.e. documents that are several hundred pages in length. Dragon is just so slow under such circumstances. That's probably a performance limitation in the interface Microsoft provides to third-party application developers, as EndNote bibliography and Acrobat PDF generation from within Word are also painfully slow. I wasn't expecting version 15.6 to fix its performance problem in Microsoft Word, and indeed it hasn't.
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I have just downloaded DNS 15.6 from the KnowBrainer link and installed it by following the instructions contained in the KB Dragon manual for the installation of DNS 15.6.
I followed instructions to the letter including uninstalling my current version DNS 15.3 and I was surprised to see how many files and applications connected to DNS that had to be closed before uninstallation could be completed.

Having now installed DNS 15.6 and changing K889 to K809, as well as selecting deferring activation for seven days. I launched DNS 15.6 but the Dragon Activation Product windows did not appear but went straight into opening the program. I then clicked on About Dragon and the splash screen came up showing my serial number as K809 and the version as 15.6. I then had some difficulty in getting rid of the splash screen but eventually it disappeared.

So far, I have been able to dictate into Microsoft Word without any prior problems but when I give the command sleep mode, it is recognised as such and the verbal response is "sleeping" but DNS does not go to sleep.
My question is: will I have to wait seven days before the activation windows appear.
Also, why is sleep mode not working?
I have not yet reinstalled my personal commands or vocabulary.

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Originally posted by: Jomark I have just downloaded DNS 15.6 from the KnowBrainer link and installed it by following the instructions contained in the KB Dragon manual for the installation of DNS 15.6. I followed instructions to the letter including uninstalling my current version DNS 15.3 and I was surprised to see how many files and applications connected to DNS that had to be closed before uninstallation could be completed. Having now installed DNS 15.6 and changing K889 to K809, as well as selecting deferring activation for seven days. I launched DNS 15.6 but the Dragon Activation Product windows did not appear but went straight into opening the program. I then clicked on About Dragon and the splash screen came up showing my serial number as K809 and the version as 15.6. I then had some difficulty in getting rid of the splash screen but eventually it disappeared.

The Registration page came up this morning (after 7days) and after filling it in I was asked to log in. However, already having a Nuance account I logged in and filled in the correct K889A serial number only to be told that it was already registered in 2016.

My question Lunis is: as my splashscreen now shows the serial No as K809A in accordance with your installation instructions, must I now register the serial No as K809A?



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The registration page automatically comes up 7 days after you install Dragon and don't register. Registering is NEVER Required and as you pointed out, you are already registered. In our opinion registering is pretty much a waste of time. After the 7  day reminder pops up, click “don't remind me again”. When you register, you  give Nuance permission to spam you and did you notice that they didn't tell you about the official release of Ver. 15.6, the most important message?

 

It doesn't matter what your splash screen  displays. If you had installed DPI using the fake serial number like K809A-G00-0000-0000-00 Dragon would be displaying that number rather than the real activation serial number, as it should. We find it interesting that the Group versions of Dragon no longer display a serial number.



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Had a little trouble with "Entry Point Not Found ... dd10axa.dll".

What is the relevance of that file?
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Originally posted by: sterlingtimes Had a little trouble with "Entry Point Not Found ... dd10axa.dll". What is the relevance of that file?

I get the following error that similar when putting DIP in icon tray only mode. Dragon toolbar disappears. Right clicking an icon I am given the option to "minimize/open" toolbar. opening the settings "Appearance" again it looks like it hasn't saved and "modern" is selected instead of icon tray only mode.

 

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I had the "Entry Point Not Found" error also. Rebooting fix the error for me.
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Originally posted by: TomTom Lunis, Any idea when and where i can download the DPI 15.6 german version? I have downloaded the file you provided. But i can't upgrade with it (Error: "An upgrade of the currently installed version is not possible...") and if you uninstall DPI 15.3 beforehand, it will only install the english version.

 

You can download the German version 15.6 from the nuance portal at the following location:

 

https://esd.nuance.com/app/de/register

 

All copies of DPI we sell to clients are purchased through our nuance European distributor and we don't have any problems downloading any client software from the portal above and the client always has direct access to download from Nuance. Not sure why Lunis's activation code can't download. If you have problems I suggest you talk to your vendor of DPI.

 

 



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Hello Lindsay,

I have already tried this link and I get the following error message:

 

"We regret to inform you that with this serial number a download of the software was tried 5 times. Please contact our customer service at this number:..."

I have sent an e-mail to the customer service with the request to reset the whole thing. The seller from whom I bought Dragon also only provides me the following link: "https://esd.nuance.com/app/".


It would have been great if someone could have provided me with a direct link. Then I wouldn't have to wait 2-3 days for an a reply.

Thanks a lot anyway!

Best wishes,

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Didn't realise it was you Caglar, email me. support@pcbyvoice.com



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                    Welcome (See Mission Statement)

 

Oddly enough, North American end-users are running into the same brick wall. After a few frustrating attempts, we contacted Nuance Level III support, (only available to the Dragon reseller channel) downloaded and uploaded English DPI 15.6 to our server which resides on a 5 Gb server farm. We added a public direct download link to our opening post but should have additionally noted that it is the English version; our bad. Don't count on receiving an email response from Nuance US or UK corporate but we brought this to their attention yesterday and they are working on it. Also note that all Nuance programmers, developers and Web masters are shuttered so all work has been made considerably more difficult and may take longer than usual.  We believe all US and UK resellers have access to Ver. 15.6; although most are probably not yet aware. It usually takes Nuance a few days to weeks to inform their VAR channel.



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as Monkey8 noted, Nuance hasn't gotten around to Microsoft certifying Ver. 15.6 so you will receive all kinds of warnings that you can ignore.

 

In terms of signing desktop application executables there are several types of certification available:

 

OV (Organisation Validation): which confirms the existence of the organisation and until recent Windows update (1903 I think) allowed you to bypass the defender screen and come straight up with the installation wizard. However Microsoft changed that with the Windows update so you now need to have the second form of verification as detailed below.

 

EV (Extended Validation): from Windows update 1903 forwards Microsoft will display the defender screen unless you have an extended validation certificate which involves a hardware key attached to your computer. It involves additional checks on your company. For some reason nuance have not yet updated to EV certification.

 

Thousands of installation packages are now faced with the same issue where the vendor needs to update to EV certification to avoid the defender screen.



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Any idea about how long it might take Nuance to obtain verification from Microsoft? I'd prefer to wait until this occurs before trying to convince my IT department to apply the update. Do you think it would be days/weeks?

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Originally posted by: Grandslam Any idea about how long it might take Nuance to obtain verification from Microsoft? I'd prefer to wait until this occurs before trying to convince my IT department to apply the update. Do you think it would be days/weeks?

 

 

Sorry I have no idea. However the certificates just validate the organisation and you can be pretty sure the install will be fine but then that is up to your organisation. I'm surprised Nuance have not sorted out by now. However there could be all sorts of issues involved in achieving this for an organisation the size of nuance that none of us are aware of.



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Since upgrading to DPI 15.6 I'm experiencing a problem with modal windows in Visual Studio.

 

For example if I try to add a new item I get cut-off from dictation. And the following dialog box appears.

 

Obviously it is impossible to respond to this with voice recognition unless I use a keyboard shortcut and open window speech recognition as a workaround.

 

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I seem to be having a different problem from anything I have seen here after the upgrade to 15.6. I want through the installation of the upgrade and everything worked fine, but now I have the problem with every time I try to use the mouse grid I get an error message and and it freezes DPI up. The only way I can get it to work is to restart it.
The first error message I get is:

interpreter received unexpected or boring signal

Then on top of the error message I have gotten 2 different error messages while I was trying to figure out what was going on.

Fatal exception in interpreter
under details it says "at line 13 and script natspeak-dvc"

Fatal exception in interpreter
under details it says "at line 21 in script MyCommands"

Actually to make it perfectly clear when I just say mouse grid everything works fine. As soon as I say a number to go to that area I get the error messages.
I tried using the KnowBrainer command "MouseGrid Screen" just to see what would happen and I get the same error message.

I hope somebody has some idea what might be going on here. Thank you very much in advance for any ideas you might have.

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No MouseGrid changes have been applied to DPG 15.6 and we suspect DPI 15.6. Our unqualified quess is that when Nuance realized that DPI 16 was no longer around the corner and couldn't be dangled as a marketing offering, they realized that they had to fix DPI as they previously did in DMPE and DPG. DPI 15.3 users experienced stability issues, limited compatibility with Microsoft 365 (2019) and an out of date scripting engine. We cannot test DPI 15.6 but we have verified DPG 15.6 has no problem with Dragon's MouseGrid or KnowBrainer's MouseGrid Screen commands.



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I guess the only thing I can think of is to go back to DPI 15.3. Will I need to use the Dragon on installer to wipe out everything before I reinstall 15.3? I know I have to backup all my commands in the Command Browser and backup my user profile if I don't want to create a new one. I just want to make sure there isn't something special I need to do in order to revert back to DPI 15.3.

Thank you very much

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In our opinion the correct answer is to identify and eradicate the actual culprit rather than performing the equivalence of cutting off a finger. If DPI 15.3 was not in critical need of service, Nuance never would have issued the Ver. 15.6 fix. In our opinion, even if you have to go the sledgehammer route of reformatting your computer, we think you would be better off then going to the trouble of exporting your vocabulary and commands, uninstalling Ver. 15.6, installing Ver. 15.0, upgrading to 15.3, creating a new user profile (you will not be able to open your Ver. 15.6 profile) and importing your previous vocabulary and commands... who is to say that your current problem doesn't go away. We are betting that there's a fair chance you will still have the same problem in Ver. 15.3. That damage may have even been inadvertently caused by the Ver. 15.6 installation rather than the application.    


Before taking a sledgehammer approach, you might consider killing each of your utilities, one at a time, until you hopefully locate the culprit. We don't think Dragon is the problem unless other end-users begin complaining about the same issue.



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Hi Lunis,

Thanks so much for sharing and explaining the updates. You mentioned that you updated the installation guides to include 15.6. Where would I find that? The link you have to the installation/training guides takes me to the KnowBrainer store where I could buy it, however I purchased Dragon 15 from KB already and just need any additional instruction specifically for 15.6.

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We are not set up to contact previous customers without contacting all of them at the same time, which includes microphone customers etc. It would take us several hours to manually perform this function. This is why we tell our customers that saving our original email is critical. It contains all of the information you're looking for and is up to date forever. These emails do not include a lot of information but they do include a link to a PDF file that is continuously updated to other items like manuals and utilities. The DPI 15.6 manual has been updated nearly daily. If you have lost your email, contact us at support@knowbrainer.com for a copy. We have a command that makes quick work of that particular chore. As you might imagine, we have been out straight from 9 AM to 1 or 2 AM every day, as you can see by the time of this post.



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As it would most likely have taken a long time to notifiy every customer, I went back to my latest purchase email and voila, downloading the Dragon maual worked and it is the latest version.

I followe the instructions to the letter and DPI15.6 installed.

I also found that although I exported my commands and vocabulary I did not have to re-import them as they were already there when I started DPI15.6



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I debated whether to put this problem here or the issues thread. I chose here because there has already been some discussion of the mouse grid issues.

Based on some testing in the past few minutes, mouse grid works fine, if you issue single numbers. As soon as you trying to say more than one number, that is when Dragon appears to crash and is only recoverable by ending it in the task manager and relaunching it.

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I can consistently replicate this mousegrid "fatal exception". I cannot then correct matters by using the Task Manager: instead I need a restart.

 

I also have a problem with the Dragon Web Extension in Edge. I think that I may have fixed this.



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Mphillipson-I am having the same issues as you reported above regarding visual studio.

Given this problem and the mouse grid problem, I am considering going back to 15.3.

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I think that I have resolved the Dragon Web Extension in Edge by checking the "do not ask me again" box. Once at box is ticked, it is no longer necessary to Activate the extension because Activate is greyed-out.
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You can optionally accept the extension and then deactivate it. This gives you the option of re-enabling it in the future. 


We would hate to see anyone go back to Ver. 15.3 because there are a number of penalties. 
We have also noted that most end-users are not experiencing these issues. You might want to look for a another culprit, before rolling back.



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I have just created a new user profile and the mouse grid problem still exists-I can dictate individual numbers but as soon as I train dictate 2 or more numbers at once-Dragon crashes!

Can we establish whether this is just some users or all 15.6 individual users?

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HeardWord commands containing MouseGrid and more than one number also crash the system, e.g. HeardWord "MouseGrid","one","two","three","four"

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Originally posted by: wheels496 I have just created a new user profile and the mouse grid problem still exists-I can dictate individual numbers but as soon as I train dictate 2 or more numbers at once-Dragon crashes! Can we establish whether this is just some users or all 15.6 individual users? Thanks

 

I just tried it and Dragon crashed.

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Unfortunately, with some difficulties I have downgraded back to DPI 15.3.

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Originally posted by: wheels496 I have just created a new user profile and the mouse grid problem still exists-I can dictate individual numbers but as soon as I train dictate 2 or more numbers at once-Dragon crashes! Can we establish whether this is just some users or all 15.6 individual users? Thanks

 

I think it is pretty much across the board. I hadn't seen it up until now because I don't use these commands. Sorry to hear that you have gone back to 15.3, can you really not just survive with MouseGrid with one number or MouseGrid Window with one number?

 

 



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I think it is pretty much across the board. I hadn't seen it up until now because I don't use these commands. Sorry to hear that you have gone back to 15.3, can you really not just survive with MouseGrid with one number or MouseGrid Window with one number?

The problem was remembering to only use one digit at a time. I did try to look at the mouse grid commands to see whether I could change so it would only accept one digit at a time but I don't think that was possible. For example, even though I know about this problem, within 20 minutes of starting this morning I had crashed Dragon by dictating more than one digit!

Obviously each time I am ending Dragon and restarting, that involves mouse work!

Given that there is also an issue with the add new file dialogue box, in visual studio, I took the decision to go back (hopefully only temporarily).

The drawback of working from home is obviously I cannot call on colleagues to do some keyboard/mouse work for me! (Although I do wonder whether you can get past the dialogue box problem with a macro-shamefully as a programmer I do not resort to developing many voice command shortcuts).



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We can also confirm that attempting to deploy multiple numbers in the Dragon MouseGrid feature freezes Dragon 15.6 and additionally freezes every active application with a Dragon Add-in; resulting in having to End Task all of these apps in the Task Manager  We previously only tested one movement. Our apologies for not fully testing the MouseGrid.



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Lunis, I saw this post and it inspired me to write a Better Business Bureau review for you. Thank you so much for the time, effort, and soul you put into your work. Take care
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MouseGrid fixed perhaps and certainly improved
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Alas, I installed 15.6 from the KnowBrainer website. But the insertion point jumps to the bottom of the screen and inserts there whenever I dictate. I uninstalled it and reverted to 15.0. (I have the disk.) Version 15.3 doesn't work for me either.

Here's my document setup in case Nuance engineers are interested: I'm working in a 160-page two-column Word document using up-to-date Microsoft 365. The top, bottom, inside, and outside margins are 0.75", 0.5", 0.75", and 0.75". (Mirror margins are turned on.) The column widths are 3.4" and the spacing is 0.2".

I'm working on a 4K monitor and I edit documents in Page Layout view with the document sized to fill the screen vertically. Many of the pages have short columns, terminated by column breaks.



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I'm working in a 160-page two-column Word document using up-to-date Microsoft 365. The top, bottom, inside, and outside margins are 0.75", 0.5", 0.75", and 0.75". (Mirror margins are turned on.) The column widths are 3.4" and the spacing is 0.2".

DPI would probably even have problems with a single column 160 page long document. You need to divide the document into a series of files no longer than perhaps 40-50 pages each and work on each of them individually. It might be best to initially have just a single column in each file. When you are finished, you can combine the individual files into a single document. Microsoft Word used to have a feature for allowing people to make a master document that links to the individual documents and can print them out as a single unit. However, I have been unable to find that feature in my Microsoft 365 program. I’m writing a book and have more than 100 different files – it’s going to be long – and will have to find a way of dealing with the long document after I have finished all of the writing. DPI simply doesn’t work properly with long documents, and I expect that the problems you have relate both to the length of your document into the fact that you have two columns.


 

 



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Originally posted by: harpalus I'm working in a 160-page two-column Word document using up-to-date Microsoft 365. The top, bottom, inside, and outside margins are 0.75", 0.5", 0.75", and 0.75". (Mirror margins are turned on.) The column widths are 3.4" and the spacing is 0.2".

 

DPI would probably even have problems with a single column 160 page long document. You need to divide the document into a series of files no longer than perhaps 40-50 pages each and work on each of them individually. I

 

 

Thank you, Gary. But DPI 15.0 has no problems with the document though I have to be careful to avoid freezes, which can last as long as a minute or two.



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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt Don, We just want to point out that in Nuance's and our opinion, Ver. 15.0 was a disaster and should not of been released until what we now refer to as 15.3, was ready. Now you are 2 free releases behind. Nuance never makes a patch or an incremental update unless they feel it is critical. We recommend installing the DPI 15.6 Download

 



Thank you Lunis. However, I've tried both 15.3 and the DPI 15.6 download and they both fail for me, with the insertion point jumping to the wrong place and therefore text being inserted in the wrong place. Version 15.0 is fine on my computer though it sometimes freezes. I've learned how to (mostly) avoid the freezes. I give more details about my (large) document and layout in my September 18 message.



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Disaster! I downloaded the DNS 15.6 update from thise site and began the installation. At some point, an error message box popped up saying that a particular file was invalid and that the installation would have to be aborted. Before I can do anything, including writing down the name of the invalid file, the installation aborted. The last words I saw were "Rolling back." I assumed that meant that the installation was rolling back to my original DNS 15.3 setup. Instead, what happened was that my entire DNS directory and every semblance of DNS 15.3 was deleted from my computer! Fortunately, I make an image of my hard drive every night (using Macrium Reflect) and was able to restore my computer to its earlier state, losing very little data that I had entered after the image was made and before the 15.6 installation was started.

I have no idea what happened or why an aborted installation would completely remove DNS from my computer. I do not intend to try to install 15.6 until I can be assured that the DNS 15.6 update won't do this.

Anyone else have this problem?

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Originally posted by: cloverdavid Disaster! […] Anyone else have this problem?

I experienced something similar (and had also started the install immediately after taking a disk image - fortunately). For me the message box hung around long enough for me to do a "window image grab". In my case it was a "permissions" problem - the installer did not have write access to the Start folder (maybe a signing/certification issue?). I fixed the problem and tried the install again. This kept repeating - every time the installer tried to create a folder somewhere the OS blocked the attempt and rolled back. I took image grabs of quite a few of these (which I sent off to Lunis after I got everything installed). I eventually recognized the common thread - failure to create a folder - the message boxes offered a "Retry" button so I created each folder as specified in the message box then clicked the "Retry" button. This work but was tedious. I tried 15.6 for three days (trying hard not to put any data on my C:\ drive), found it to be way too buggy for me to use, then reinstalled the disk image.

The inability to start things on the desktop by saying "start…" was the straw that broke the camel’s back. In the long run though, having about half of my commands (at this point almost all KnowBrainer) fail to perform (as they did just fine in 15.3) would have been enough for me to abandon 15.6.



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David,

When installing major utilities, ALWAYS reboot your computer and run as few applications as possible. Don't give up. Failing to install and removing DPI 15.3 from your computer are 2 things that shouldn't have happened and probably related.



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It would really be nice if Nuance had a reasonably accessible support page where you could find, and even download, updates. There is nothing on the Nuance site about this, or any other, update. I know this isn't a Nuance support site, but it's the ONLY place I have found where you can get any kind of information on Dragon updates and issues (and thank you for that). Nuance tech support? The last time I tried that they charged me $25 for nothing, in essence.
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What is the likelihood that waiting until Nuance has obtained certification from Microsoft will result in a less cumbersome install process? I am doing as well as ever on DPI 15.3. That is not to say that I have not had trouble with that, but I'm managing and am not eager to go through all the hassles that people are having.

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Hi Folks and thank you Lunis!
It's been a while since I posted here but I recently finished a 'from-scratch' computer build and installed Windows 10 64bit Pro. However, my other desktop, (and the one I presently use, for lack of familiarity with Win 10), is still Windows 7 64bit Home edition.

I will be upgrading that computer with Win 10 64bit Home edition, (I had to buy the full Win 10 Pro version because you can't upgrade to 10 Pro from a system that had 7 Home version).

However, I'm going to download the 15.6 upgrade and save it to a drive for now. I have my previous build setup as a 'bare-bones' bench system because even though I tried to keep my Win 7 O/S drive as a dedicated O/S drive ONLY, I was forced to install some programs to that drive over the years.

I need to get some programs from that drive and I think I may have installed my Dragon 15 to that drive as well. I'm going to need to uninstall Dragon 15.3 from that computer and reinstall it to the new Win 10 Pro system and then perform the upgrade to 15.6.
This is all just an FYI but if you think I may have trouble reinstalling DNS 15 in Windows 10, (I purchased it from you as an upgrade from DNS 13 back in 2018), please let me know.

I'm a little concerned with the fact that I purchased the DNS 15 for Windows 7 back in 2018 and it may have a conflict with installing to Win 10.

However, I'm not too worried because I don't think Win 10 was around back then, at least, not well circulated... Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing that there shouldn't be any problem taking DNS from Win 7 Home to install in Win 10 Pro.

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Originally posted by: wingclip

 

I'm a little concerned with the fact that I purchased the DNS 15 for Windows 7 back in 2018 and it may have a conflict with installing to Win 10.

 

However, I'm not too worried because I don't think Win 10 was around back then, at least, not well circulated... Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing that there shouldn't be any problem taking DNS from Win 7 Home to install in Win 10 Pro.

 

Anyway, thanks again,

 

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I know your question is directed at Lunis but it seems you are basically worried about installing Dragon in Windows 10. Just to say that most people on here are using Windows 10 with Dragon and have no problems installing it or reinstalling.

Just a note to say that when you are uninstalling your Dragon from the Windows 7 computer, make sure you are online so that you don't lose an activation. It then is just a simple matter of installing on the new computer And activating, There shouldn't be any problem



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Originally posted by: supee
Originally posted by: wingclip

 

 

I know your question is directed at Lunis but it seems you are basically worried about installing Dragon in Windows 10. Just to say that most people on here are using Windows 10 with Dragon and have no problems installing it or reinstalling.

Just a note to say that when you are uninstalling your Dragon from the Windows 7 computer, make sure you are online so that you don't lose an activation. It then is just a simple matter of installing on the new computer And activating, There shouldn't be any problem

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Hi,
I downloaded the EN link above and it installed 15.0 instead of 15.6. So I tried to purchase the guide for 20$, but did not receive a download link or the PDF via email. ?? What am I doing wrong here? Is the English download above in fact the 15.0 installer and not 15.6? The German download site does not work for me, my serial is not recognized.
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All orders in the KnowBrainer shopping cart are processed during business hours; even download manuals. We agree that manuals should be available for immediate download and apologize for not getting your order in a more timely fashion. We threw in a few extra perks and you should have your manual.

MAJOR UPDATE: Nuance has asked us to disable the current DPI 15.6 link because the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. Even the German version was temporarily released. Nuance has assured us that the official Microsoft certified release is coming soon (that's code for eventually). They are also working on a patch for the DPI 15.0/3 which will be accessible through the Dragon Help/Check for Updates menu, which cannot handle full releases. They are also aware of the MouseGrid issue and promised to fix it, in the next incremental release.



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Thanks for the reply and the extras. I was surprised to have 15.0 (a downgrade from 15.3 in my case) installed on my system after running the installation I downloaded here under the link for 15.6 English. 

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This is what I get When I click Chek for Updates. Is this because I changed my key to K809 when installing?






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It seems that the Nuance certification problem for DPI 15.6 has been automatically solved.

 

I downloaded the update the first day when Lunis posted the link, and tried to install immediately, but abandoned the installation when I saw Microsoft's warning about the program not being certified.  I then obediently waited to see an update promised to be posted by Lunis here (except that I checked every day, not every few days as suggested), but lost patience today, and decided to install the download anyway, prepared to ignore the warning when it appears.

 

Well, absolutely no warning occurred in the installation. I did an update (rather than a complete uninstall and reinstall cycle), and everything seemed to have worked just fine. Obviously, Windows certification check relies upon information external to the program itself. I believe it is just a matter of the Windows operating system automatically checking an online registry during the installation. Clearly, the registry has being updated.

 

But whether Nuance is going to soon release a different (and somehow improved) version of DPI 15.6, I do not know. All I know is that this one works for now.



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Is there any upgrade to DPI15.6 for Spanish? My version is DPI15.3.
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Hi Folks,
Okay, there are quite a few posts in this thread and I tried to read as many as I could to get up to speed as to where we are at regarding the 15.6 version. Going by what Lunis posted on 10/1/20, it appears that Nuance wants to hold back DPI 15.6.

However, I downloaded and saved DPI 15.6 from this website sometime before the first, (September 23, 2020, to be exact), and I installed Dragon into my Windows 10 system last night.

Of course, I used the installer that I downloaded on the 23rd (before reading about the Nuance request not to release it anymore). When Dragon opened on my system after I installed it, I received a notification that there was an update to DPI 15.3. As instructed by the installation manual, I downloaded and saved the update and then rebooted the computer.

After the computer restarted, I installed the update and checked to see what version of Dragon I now had installed. Dragon says that I have DPI "15.3.000.06". I ran the "check for updates" but there were no more.

 

>>>PICTURE removed because it displayed the Dragon serial number.<<<

 

Frankly, I expected to see 15.6 installed and am surprised because I did use the download supplied by the KnowBrainer website. However, from what I'm reading in these posts, generally speaking, it seems that 15.6 isn't performing so good. 


I don't know why I didn't have DPI 15.6 installed even though I used the download I got on September 23, but at this point, I'm not so sure I want it anyway.

The fact that nuance asked KnowBrainer to cease publishing the latest DPI 15.6 link, does make me wonder if there may be some bugs in it. Keeping in mind that I'm basing that opinion after skipping around and reading six or seven of the user posts.

I'll try to read a few more get a better idea when I get a chance.
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You did not install Ver. 15.6. You installed Ver. 15.0. If you had not installed Ver. 15.0, you would not have been prompted to install the Ver. 15.3 patch. DPI 15.6 is a full installation; not a patch. The Dragon Check for Updates menu only looks for patches. Nuance has informed us that they will 'soon' officially release a Ver. 15.6 patch and full installation. As you know, Nuance is not permitting us to publicly offer a download from our server but we have another solution: For our noncustomers we have put together a Digital Download package that includes our Dragon 15.6 installation guide and workarounds for 3 dozen sandtraps. Our customers already have this information.

Simply put, you are using Ver. 15.3; not 15.6. Nuance doesn't create an incremental update unless it's critical. Dragon R&D is very expensive. To name a few Ver. 15.3 bugs that were fixed:


1. Stability (all but eliminated 20 second freezes)
2. Microsoft 365 (2019) compatibility
3. Replacing SAX Basic scripting with WinWrap Basic (which is used to KnowBrainer)

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Thanks, Lunis,
Yes, I came to realize the download I saved from the KB forums back on the 23rd was the main DPI 15 installer. I've always been quite satisfied with the DPI 15.3 and whenever Nuance decides to let KB release 15.6, I'll see what others think and decide if the update is something I should go with. It's like Windows 7, which wasn't broken and yet someone in MS felt it needed to be 'fixed'.

If it's anything like Windows 10 compared to Windows 7, the old adage; "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind, IMO. It might have a nice, new, shiny, paint job, and some racing stripes on the fenders, but that 'ain't gonna to make it go any faster'.
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2. Microsoft 365 (2019) compatibility

On my 2019 computer DPI 15.6 is not compatible with Microsoft outlook that comes as part of Microsoft 365.

If Microsoft outlook is open and I am working in a different program, I will pretty soon get a freeze that shows that Outlook is using 20% or more of the CPU. The freeze will go on and on. Typically I have to kill both Outlook and DPI 15.6. Of course if I dare to dictate within Outlook, the same sort of problem soon surfaces. I don't have this type of problem with other programs that are open or being used except that in one instance Knowbrainer produced a freeze that used slightly more than 40% of my CPU. The task manager showed that Knowbrainer was using that much CPU, and I had to kill Knowbrainer and DPI. At that time I had the Knowbrainer command window open and also had a command open in DPI. At that time my 2019 computer had the very latest command file for Knowbrainer. I've been very busy with some things and haven't had a chance to try and reproduce the problem with Knowbrainer and after transferring all of my commands into DPI haven't had many occasions on this computer to use Knowbrainer. With modern computers and modern software and umpteen drivers there are so many possible reasons why freezes could occur I suspect. A Dell computer that I purchased in 2013 works perfectly with Knowbrainer but is using a very old command file and I never have the Knowbrainer command editor open while DPI command browser is also open.

If I want to reply to a long email, I have to copy it into Microsoft Word so that I can be sure I respond to all points. Then I must close Outlook. Next I dictate a reply in Microsoft Word, open up Outlook and paste the reply into it.

Fortunately, I don't seem to have problems when dictating within Microsoft Word - but then I didn't before 15.6. DPI 15.6 has not been much of a fix for me. There were no errors when I installed it.

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KnowBrainer isn't the culprit in the Dragon super freeze; not to be confused with the Covid-19 SuperSpreader. When Dragon freezes, everything connected to Dragon, which includes Microsoft Word, WordPerfect, Outlook and KnowBrainer, also freeze because they are all hooked into Dragon. Having said that, we haven't had any problems with Outlook since upgrading to DPG 15.6. You might try uninstalling and reinstalling Outlook?

The KnowBrainer Editor/Command Browser is referred to as the Sidebar because it works differently and uses far less resources. It doesn't matter if the KnowBrainer Sidebar is open or not. We only run Dragon and KnowBrainer with the KnowBrainer Sidebar and the Dragon Command Browser open, so this shouldn't be an issue. The only current problem we are suffering is when creating or editing a global KnowBrainer command, it can take up to 20 seconds to deploy; the 1st time only. We just found out today that this problem is related to a Windows 10 update which is raising havoc with many other utilities; including Dragon. We are not certain but it's beginning to look like Microsoft Windows 10 may be the culprit. If it is, hopefully Microsoft will sort this out soon. Microsoft has been made aware of this issue by numerous programmers.



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I have been using the DPI 15.6 update since Lunis made it available. Unfortunately, this update still is not free of bugs with Microsoft Office 365, especially Excel and I believe Outlook. I receive many of these errors from Windows error reporting. I hope Nuance is continuing to resolve these problems:

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Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking15\Program\natspeak.exe

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Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: natspeak.exe
Application Version: 15.60.200.16
Application Timestamp: 5f1da27e
Fault Module Name: mfc110u.dll
Fault Module Version: 11.0.60610.1
Fault Module Timestamp: 51b50f28
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000a4dde
OS Version: 10.0.19041.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 4c24
Additional Information 2: 4c247cc41903f1a53c4ffe3a843adcfd
Additional Information 3: 0301
Additional Information 4: 0301b81d7ca6f58ed33409bd112eab15

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The version I downloaded does not work with MS Word 365.  Dragon opens and then closes.  I was able to dictate into dragon pad and cut and paste into Word 365.

Hope they fix it!

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Are you talking about Ver. 15.3 or 15.6? Ver. 15.6 should be fully compatible with Microsoft 365. Nuance fixed it and a few other major problems. If you're not using Ver. 15.6, check your email

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How does one access the update from version 15.3 to version 15.6? I do not have the option under Help to check for updates. I have not found where to download the update from Nuance.

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DPI 15.6 has not yet been officially released and will not show up in your DragonBar Check for Updates menu unless Nuance officially releases it as a Microsoft certified patch. We have emailed you a download

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Could I get a link to the download, as well? I'm desperately hoping the new version fixes a nasty incompatibility with MemoQ, a translation software I use.
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Would you be so kind as to send me a link also.

Thank you

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Originally posted by: Buta Could I get a link to the download, as well? I'm desperately hoping the new version fixes a nasty incompatibility with MemoQ, a translation software I use.

 

I use memoQ also because of its compatibility with Dragon. But it does have some issues, the most significant being that Dragon tends to freeze if I decide to type something manually.

 

 is that your issue also, and, if so, have you noticed an improvement with 15.6?



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When the patient said “Doc it hurts when I do this” The Doc said “don't do that”. You can always stop typing.

 

We can't qualify our answer because we don't use memoQ but we recommend everyone upgrade; even though DPI 15.6 is a prerelease. Nuanced doesn't spend $$$ on incremental (free) upgrades unless they consider it to be critical. The #1 reason why 15.6 was developed is to fix the freezing problem. 



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I did upgrade, Lunis. But when my computer died recently, I had to go back to 15.3.

Offhand, I can't recall if I tried typing in memoQ when I was using 15.6. It's become my habit to never touch the keyboard when translating, even when I encounter some off-the-wall string of characters that I will never see again.

I've been waiting for Nuance to release 15.6, but if you're willing to give me access to the prerelease version, I will gladly accept it.



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We just emailed it to you but we have recently noted that many end-users are running into installation issues. For our noncustomers we have put together a Digital Download package which includes the DPI 15.6 download, Dragon 15.6 installation guide and workarounds for 3 dozen sandtraps, which our customers already have.



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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt We just emailed it to you but we have recently noted that many end-users are running into installation issues. For our noncustomers we have put together a Digital Download package which includes the DPI 15.6 download, Dragon 15.6 installation guide and workarounds for 3 dozen sandtraps, which our customers already have.

 

 

So there is a reason why Nuance is withholding it, after all...



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Or it's just a matter of jumping through the hoops as described in Lunis's Installation Guide. (I haven't done it yet.)

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Reply from Nuance Support when I asked them about 15.6

 

Thank you for contacting Nuance Customer Service.

 I can confirm that version 15.3 is the latest updated version of the program Dragon Professional. Currently there is no release date for an upgrade 15.6

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You're wasting your time calling Nuance because DPI 15.6 has not officially been released. Only Nuance developers know about this version. We have also recently noted that many end-users are running into installation issues. For our noncustomers we have put together a Digital Download package which includes the DPI 15.6 download, Dragon 15.6 installation guide and workarounds for 3 dozen sandtraps, which our customers already have.



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Thank you guys for this!

I just upgraded from Dragon Professional Legal 15.3 to 15.6. The upgraded has been fantastic!

The software is working faster. I have had several problems with DP disconnecting from the Word extension. Thankfully that has not been a problem.

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Stephan,

Nuance isn't ready to officially release DPI 15.6. They still need to fix the MouseGrid feature and there may be a couple of aesthetics but we don't see much wrong. Of course it's not yet Microsoft certified and Nuance informed us that they would like to create an update that can be downloaded from Dragon's Check for Updates menu. The idea is to give end users the option to install a full copy or upgrade an existing 15.0 or 15.3 installation.

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Could somebody share with me the link for DPI 15.6? I know Nuance hasn't officially released it yet, but who knows how long that will take. I'm setting up a new PC, and moving up to v15 at the same time, so I would like to start fresh with 15.6 and hopefully avoid the MS Outlook issues that some others have encountered with the prior version.

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I'd love to move to 15.6. Lunis, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could send me the link. Thanks so much
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does this mean I can have an upgrade from professional 15.3?



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Q1: what is the status of DPI 15.6 now?  Is it officially released, signed, etc? How much does an upgrade cost? Etc.

 

I am a bit confused by posts in these fora: 

 

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DPI 15.6 full build availability - monkey8 - 09/11/2020 06:34 AM

 

 

The portal should be generic for all countries:  https://esd.nuance.com/app/


... Lunis: ... DPI 15.6 was theoretically ready in mid July and while we can appreciate the time it took to tweak, we don't understand why Microsoft certification was ignored. ...

 

DPI 15.6 Is Ready to Download - Lunis Orcutt - 09/11/2020 10:59 AM

 

DPI 15.6 UPDATE - Lunis Orcutt - 09/24/2020 09:03 AM

 

 

Download Link Temporarily Disabled


Nuance has asked us to disable the current DPI 15.6 link ...... Nuance has assured us that the official Microsoft certified release is coming very soon... If you are already using DPI 15.6, it's fine. To our knowledge, the only change will be Microsoft certification (to eliminate those pesky Microsoft warnings)... Nuance is also working on a patch for the DPI 15.0/3 which will be accessible through the Dragon Help/Check for Updates menu, which cannot handle full releases. DPI 15.6 should be available as a patch and a full installation. We prefer full installations.

 

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I have two Dragon 15.x licences: (1) DPI 15 (now at 15.2), which I purchased direct from Nuance, and (2) DPG 15.6, which I purchased through Lunis at KnowBrainer. 

 

Since I am currently using DPG 15.6 on my main PC, I did not feel an urgent need to obtain DPI 15.6 in September.  Especially since it seemed to have been released a bit prematurely, without signatures, etc.  I figured I could wait until things settled down.

 

Q2: Have things settled down yet?  Have official full installations and/or patches been released.

 

Q3: How can I obtain DPI 15.6?

Since I purchased DPI 15.6 straight from Nuance, I guess I missed Lunis' customer emauil - I am a DPG customer from his POV, not a DPI customer.

 

Q4: Do I need to install DPI 15.6 via "the Dragon Help/Check for Updates menu which cannot handle full releases"?

Like most, I prefer a full release, but I will take a patch if it is free and the full release is not. I don't have DPI 15.3 installed on any active PC at the momnt, but I should probably do so to obtain the patch before it goes away (if it has not already disappeared from thwe web)

 

Q5: Or is there a place that I can obtain a full release from?


Q6: How much will upgrading from DPI 15(.3) to DPI 15.6 cost me?

To my surprise I have not received any DPI 15.6 announcement email from Nuance. Or anyone.

 

 

 

 



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We hope you don't mind that we edited your post by numbering your questions for continuity:

A1a: It seems like once every other week this question is posted. Nuance does not publicize release dates and those who know are required to sign an NDA.

A1b: COVID-19 has pretty much killed Nuance productivity with everyone working from home. Nuance is not set up to work this way. Collaboration, productivity and organization have taken a beating. The MouseGrid problem was not reported in February because frankly, we all missed it. DPG 15.6 still has this problem because we didn't know it then either. Nuance informed us about 2 months ago that they have the fix but all we can tell you is that Nuance wheels turn slowly.

As you probably know, we are no longer permitted to publish a direct link but we just sent you a complimentary download (complimentary to our customers) and a new manual which details the installation process 

If you already have DPG 15.6, installing DPI 15.6 (currently DPI 15.3) would be a step backwards. We strongly recommend sticking with DPG 15.6. If you require a MouseGrid Patch fix click the previous link for a complimentary download.

Q2: No

Q3: Check your email

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After reading a couple of pages of all the problems that this update has, I'm inclined to wait until it's totally ready.

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Originally posted by: cripp7 After reading a couple of pages of all the problems that this update has, I'm inclined to wait until it's totally ready.

For me, the update has been a big improvement.  The new scripting engine is much better, so if you write your own commands, you really need 15.6. It also seems to work better with Outlook. I don't use MouseGrid very often, but the patch that you can get here fixes the 15.6 MouseGrid problems.

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Our completely unqualified guess is an official release and patch in early December.

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When I tried to use the first step of your MouseGrid patch of copying the Knowbrainer self extractor, the file failed to copy, and I got the following error: "Can create output file: C:\programData\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking15\data\ENx\DVCU\general"
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Originally posted by: Future_Ethics When I tried to use the first step of your MouseGrid patch of copying the Knowbrainer self extractor, the file failed to copy, and I got the following error: "Can create output file: C:\programData\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking15\data\ENx\DVCU\general"

 

You don't have Windows administrator rights but you can forget all about that and just download and install Dragon 15.61



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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt
Originally posted by: Future_Ethics When I tried to use the first step of your MouseGrid patch of copying the Knowbrainer self extractor, the file failed to copy, and I got the following error: "Can create output file: C:\programData\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking15\data\ENx\DVCU\general"

 

 

 

You don't have Windows administrator rights but you can forget all about that and just download and install Dragon 15.61

 

Is this the official 15.6 release?  Any advantages over the version that came out earlier this fall, besides fixing the MouseGrid commands?  Any disadvantages?  

Edit:  I guess it is official, 15.6.1.  Release notes here: https://www.nuance.com/products/help/dragon1561/dragon-for-pc/enx/professionalindividual/Content/ReleaseNotes/DG_relnotes_15_6.htm



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This is an official 15.61 release. The only change, other than Microsoft certification, is the MouseGrid fix. If you have already installed 15.6 and PGs MouseGrid commands, you are a little better off and there is no reason to install 15.61

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Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt This is an official 15.61 release. The only change, other than Microsoft certification, is the MouseGrid fix. If you have already installed 15.6 and PGs MouseGrid commands, you are a little better off and there is no reason to install 15.61

 

IS THIS THE  OFFICIALPATCH?



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Not so, Lunis!

 

Although I am unable to dl it yet (is it both DPG and DPI?), apparently the other big fix (really big) is that they restored the desktop shortcut functionality (so opening a shortcut works with the passed along file parameter)! Or as Nuance puts it:
* When you create a desktop shortcut and use Dragon to open it, the file now opens successfully.



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IS THIS THE OFFICIAL PATCH 

 

15.61 dpi is an official release as Lunis says above and you can download from https://download.nuance.com/ with your DPI 15 activation code or alternatively contact your supplier.  You can also get DLI 15.61 from the same place.

 

You should get the following file which is a full download which means you will have to uninstall your existing version

 

Dragon Professional Individual 15.61.200.010 English.exe

 

Includes fixes for MouseGrid, desktop shortcuts (as mentioned by PG) and a few other items as mentioned in the release posted by Matt and repeated below.  If you are still running 15.3 there are improvements in office stability if you have such issues.

 

https://www.nuance.com/products/help/dragon1561/dragon-for-pc/enx/professionalindividual/Content/ReleaseNotes/DG_relnotes_15_6.htm

 

PG 15.61 DPG is a couple of weeks away. 



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Tried to download but received this reply:

"We are sorry, but this product is not configured for download. Please contact the vendor from which you purchased your hardware and/or software."

What now Lunis?

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Jomark, from where did you try to download? Was it from the link below

 

https://download.nuance.com/

 

did you get the message after entering your activation key then clicking on download? If that is the case then you need to get the download from your vendor where you purchased DPI from?

 

Please also note that from the link above you can only obtain the full build for 15.61.



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Apologies Lindsay and Lunis

I used the wrong product key from my NUANCE website list.

I have now used the correct key and have downloaded the update.

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I have tried to download it, but it keeps saying it's an invalid serial number-which is strange because I have used this before and I am copying the serial number that the UK company email me when we originally purchased it 3 years ago. Any ideas?

Still not sure whether I want this at work because I am assuming that the new bugs in relation to Visual Studio will not been rectified.

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I kept getting the same error.  I kept trying at various times and eventually it let me download the file.



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Wheels,

Are you attempting to install over Ver. 15.3 (which is now acceptable) or are you attempting a full installation with an upgrade serial number? If you are using an upgrade serial number, simply change the 3rd digit from an 8 to a 0 to install and change 0 back to an 8 to activate.

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I am assuming it's a problem at the Nuance side. When I tried this last night, on my personal PC, it kept complaining about the serial number but worked a few hours later. Meanwhile, I have just tried it this morning on my work PC and it's back to complaining about the serial number (I need to stop being lazy-I'm working from home so I really should just copy the file from my home PC!).

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I am puzzled. If we have 15.3 Pro Individual, should not a check for updates snag 15.6? Mine does not. Also, in the forum discussion of Wordperfect one of you made the claim (Lunis Orcutt) "We don't use WordPerfect but it is possible to directly dictate into any application, like WordPerfect X9, without having to cut and paste from the Dictation Box." I am assuming that this involves using your software. I am open to that because on the Windows side of my machine I prefer WP. Tell me software of yours would put me in that place. Please!




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                    Welcome (See Mission Statement)

 

The Dragon update only looks for patches; not full copies like the DPI 15.61 w/Installation/User Guide (including details on fixing 3 dozen sandtraps).  Dragon automatically searches for updates every couple of weeks but half the time it doesn't even catch patches. That's why we are here  

 

DragonCapture is designed to produce Direct Dictation everywhere. KnowBrainer 2017 includes Direct Dictation with the ability to properly format and capitalize corrections/edits.  In other words both utilities are designed to work with each other.

DPI 15.61 is WordPerfect X9 
Dragon friendly but possibly not WordPerfect XX. 



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Thank you for the reply. I am going to have to seriously consider getting you software. I use Dragon to create docs for my students. Thanks again for the reply.

 

Originally posted by: Lunis Orcutt                     Welcome (See Mission Statement)

 

 

 

The Dragon update only looks for patches; not full copies like the DPI 15.61 w/Installation/User Guide (including details on fixing 3 dozen sandtraps).  Dragon automatically searches for updates every couple of weeks but half the time it doesn't even catch patches. That's why we are here  

 

 

 

DragonCapture is designed to produce Direct Dictation everywhere. KnowBrainer 2017 includes Direct Dictation with the ability to properly format and capitalize corrections/edits.  In other words both utilities are designed to work with each other. DPI 15.61 is WordPerfect X9 Dragon friendly but possibly not WordPerfect XX. 

 



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Okay I am now upgraded to 15.6.1 (DPI). Even after 30 minutes I had some issues, although, hopefully none of them are showstoppers.

Firstly, any idea why I have duplicate profiles? Before I upgraded I had one user profile-David new, now I have 2 profiles with that same name.

After I upgraded, I seem to have lost some custom commands. I had a Microsoft teams command that was missing. Fortunately, I exported my commands before I upgraded, so I have just reimported my commands.

Now the biggest problem-Visual Studio-but possibly a solution for previous problem. Some users recently reported a problem with Dragon being unresponsive when a dialogue box was open. Initially, I thought this was fixed in 15.6.1 (even though I did not believe that). I now believe that the issue is not present if you run Visual Studio as administrator.

However, there does appear to be a new problem with regard to run programs as administrator. Before the upgrade, I could say [Start Visual Studio 2019] and this would run the program, as administrator, because the shortcut on start menu had this set in the properties. Ever since upgraded, this no longer works. Visual studio runs, but not as administrator.

I have tried creating a new shortcut, on the desktop, but even saying that, studio does not run as administrator. (Some of my projects, are websites and these will only load if studio is run as administrator).



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Hmm interesting as the claim is made by Nuance that they restored the desktop shortcut functionality. From the release notes:

* When you create a desktop shortcut and use Dragon to open it, the file now opens successfully.

Which is apparently now true but only to the point of opening the shortcut with the passed along file parameter (a good start)! Perhaps too bad not the other "compatibility" options are respected, though I will have to wait for DPG to test for myself . . .

For now, hover over any shortcut and say "mouse right click" and move to the context menu option and say "press enter" (or just say "click run as administrator") - the same kludge as before it was "fixed" ha ha.



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I can confirm that Dragon 15.6.1 still has a problem when using Visual Studio with dialog boxes.

Also I can confirm that this problem goes away if you open Visual Studio as an administrator. Wish I knew about this before :-(

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Great that someone else has confirmed that if you run visual studio as administrator, you no longer have an issue with the dialogue boxes.

However, any ideas how I can run the program as the administrator? The best way so far I have discovered is to pin it to the taskbar and then say [press Windows key 1]. I would like to know why the old method (set the shortcut to run as administrator) and then say [Start (name of shortcut)].

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What happens if you assign a shortcut key to the shortcut on the desktop. Then create a KnowBrainer or Dragon script that presses the shortcut key.

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You can try testing this but it should work.

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I have not tried the shortcut idea yet but I am confident that would work. For example, I now have visual studio pinned it to the desktop and if I use [Press Windows Key 1] or [Press Shift Windows Key 1], it works. In other words, if you are not depending on a dragon Start command, it works.

However, my main question is why has Dragon seemingly changed how it internally launch applications? In version 15 and 15.3, if I said [Start (name of shortcut)] and that shortcut was set to run as administrator, it worked but now it doesn't?

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Our understanding is that the loss of Dragon's 15.6 ability to launch desktop shortcuts was simply a goof that was fixed in 15.61. Keep in mind that Ver. 15.6 was a prerelease that was not intended to be available to the public in its condition. We simply felt it was necessary because of so many Ver. 15.3 problems

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I may not be explaining my question clear enough. Let's forget desktop shortcuts for a moment.

If I manually click the start menu, scroll down to Visual Studio 2019, right click, select more and then select open file location, you are taken to the location of the shortcut. You can then amend its properties so that it runs as administrator. Thereafter, when you run the shortcut, the program runs with elevated permissions.

The above successfully worked in DPI versions 15 and 15.3. However, in 15.6.1, when I say [Start Visual Studio 2019], it correctly runs the program but not as administrator.

Also this has nothing to do with visual studio because I can reproduce this behaviour in Notepad + +. I have renamed the shortcut to "notepad plus" to make it easier for Dragon to recognise. If I use the mouse to click Start Menu, then Notepad Plus it runs as administrator. If I say [Start Notepad Plus], it runs but not as administrator (I have just tried these actions again to confirm them).

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Hi!

 

It's futile to ask why Nuance has changed something - you'll never get a decisive answer.

 

My best guess is that while trying to fix some other problem, the developer thought it to be a good idea to just read the target application and arguments from the link and then run the application (probably using CreateProcess with default settings).

 

No one thought about additional compatibility settings for desktop shortcuts and now the behavior is as it is...

 

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Hello

I would just be happy if someone else could confirm that they are experiencing the same behaviour, and if that is the case, 1 of the resellers on this forum, could notify nuance and they might rectify it in an update sometime in the future.

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It has been confirmed many times. OK, not specifically with the shortcuts in the Startup folder, but those are just like any other shortcut (on the Desktop or anywhere). The point is, Dragon has special code for accessing Desktop and Startup folder shortcuts from anywhere (as we are discussing - it used to work). But as Mav pointed out, while the selection and recognition of shortcut names still functions (and that is a convenience that has all of us hoping this bug gets fixed soon), *executing* that shortcut without literally bringing it to focus in an active window (which my "hover and right click" kludge requires) means Dragon has to launch a background process (and make it universal over various Windows flavors). As Mav says, they (by and large, Nuance engineers are not _users_ of Dragon) didn't think "about additional compatibility settings for desktop shortcuts" just like they didn't originally think about passed in file names in shortcuts.

At least Nuance has been somewhat more responsive in recognizing these key usability bugs, but please, everyone that can should lodge this as a bug with them. Thx,

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Hi Lunis,

I have no time to look after a reply to my question. Sorry.

I can’t download the french version of DNS 15.6 from Nuance site. The code is wrong.... 

I haven’t the installation guide from you where you explain all the sandtraps… 

I have right now a problem with Dragon using it in MemoQ (translation CAT). It is working perfectly for a while, then it becomes slower and slower and finaly it is freezed. Can you help ?

Thank you

 

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Laurtrad,

Please begin a new thread. This question appears to be unrelated to the other Q&A posts here.



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I have found some more compatibility problems, which I don't expect to get fixed given the software it involves. However, I would appreciate if any other users can you confirm these issues and suggest solutions.

SQL server management studio has never been very friendly but at least [scratch that] and [delete next x characters] worked until now!

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