KnowBrainer Speech Recognition - NaturallySpeaking Speech Recognition

problem with third party application

Julsie — Sat, 18 May 2013 23:32:38 EST

DNS 12.5 has been working well on my windows8 pro computer since the upgrade.

Microsoft office 13 also responding well.

However, during the last few days DNS has been "misbehaving" and i fet the following eror meassage.

"A third party aplication is interferring with DNS'

I have to close and restart DNS.

It works well for a while and then again the eratic behaviour and nessage as above.

Your assistance will be appreciated

Jules

Dragon notes

kayakingglenn — Sat, 18 May 2013 22:18:21 EST

Has anyone tried the new program phone DNS "Dragon notes"?

"Wake up" has stopped working

tfritz1 — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:47:32 EST

"Wake up" command has suddenly stopped working. I used to be able to say "Listen to me" and the microphone would wake up after I said "go to sleep" with version 10 with no problems. But now with version 12/12.5 I have to revert back to "wake up", but now that does not even work. I want to try training that command, but I cannot see how to train commands or even words in the Command Browser. Can somebody tell me how?

Upgrading to new versions loses work in all DNS editions or only Home?

CyberCrone — Sat, 18 May 2013 13:09:32 EST

When I upgraded from Home 11 to version 12 I lost everything I had trained and added. I thought perhaps I had done something wrong, but someone on the Nuance forum told me that this is a big drawback to the Home edition, so when they come out with the next new version I will lose all my work again.

He recommended that I upgrade to Premium, which he says doesn't have that drawback. I would like to verify that if I buy premium 12 I won't lose my work when it is upgraded to new full number versions - is he right about that? (I never rely on input from just one person, especially in forums ).

I find that I can get Premium 12 on Amazon for about $95. Does anyone know where I can get a price better than $95, or is that the best I'm likely to do?

I'm running Windows 7 with 8 gigs RAM on a Lenovo Y570.

long time to save profile

bmac — Sat, 18 May 2013 09:39:50 EST

Every once in a while I try to save my profile when I have made numerous changes to the vocabulary, etc. After I select Profile/Save User Profile it takes quite a bit of time (15-20 seconds) the first time it is run. Subsequent saves work immediately. Is this normal?

Misheard words

SJRockower — Fri, 17 May 2013 12:23:24 EST

I coughed. The DNS heard "reboot computer".

ARRRGGGHHHH

Is there a way to automatically transfer text from a Windows virtual machine to a Mac host?

bk82 — Fri, 17 May 2013 10:50:22 EST

I'm aware of the Mac transitioning discussion running here (http://www.knowbrainer.com/forums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=14694&enterthread=y), but after wasting a few of my and my clients hours with DragonDictate (which is good when it works, but is buggy like you wouldn't believe), I am looking for a better way to integrate Dragon for Windows running in a virtual machine with a Mac host.

So: here's the deal

Short version:

I'm looking a for a way to transfer the text from a Windows program to the Mac host with a voice command. Or a hotkey.

Long version:

I'm looking for a solution to transfer text created with Dragon Medical - or any other Dragon version for that matter - in a Parallels virtual machine to a Mac-based EMR.

There are a few possibilities I have explored:

Copy and paste text from a Windows virtual machine window to a Mac host window.

I can get Dragon to copy text via Dictation Box or any other voice command, but I can't get it to switch to Mac and paste it there. The text is present on the Mac clipboard, but But apparently keyboard presses done with Advanced Scripting (using the Windows-tab-hotkey with keyboard events) do not switch to Mac.

Using the dictation box in Coherence Mode.

I wasn't able to. Again, the text is present in the Mac's clipboard, but it doesn't paste the dictation box's contents into the desired application.

Looking for a macro that would monitor the clipboard for change and paste the clipboard's contents automatically to the EMR.

I haven't found anything yet, but I keep looking.

Alternatively, does VMWare Fusion offer a better integration of Dragon NaturallySpeaking with Mac?

If you have any experience doing something like this, I'd appreciate your input.

Thanks and regards,

Boris

quips and quirks

Amy Charmatz — Fri, 17 May 2013 10:02:59 EST

I have Dragon home version 12. At this point is working pretty well and I find it increasingly invaluable! I am disabledand unable to type, and Dragon is like a miracle to me!

There are two things that happened repeatedly, however, and I hope that you can give me some insight.

Firstly, and it is difficult for me not to personify Dragon NaturallySpeaking, but in the morning it seems to take time to "wake up" and get acclimated. It usually will not let me right in the body of email and often recognition is poor. I usually have to restart my computer once or twice before proceeding. Am I right in figuring that it has to "limber up" in the morning?

The other thing that seems to be happening often is that the cursor will "skip around" and I often and up writing in a different paragraph then I am intending and don't always catch the mistake. Why is this happening? Is anyone else having a similar problem. I am very careful to avoid touching my mouse, so I don't think that could be the problem.

You have been very very helpful in the past and I am very impressed with the knowbrainer site, I'm hoping that you can give me some more "words of wisdom".

Dictating into Outlook shows up in Word

Steve Morris — Fri, 17 May 2013 01:05:43 EST

I have a person using Dragon 11.5 Pro on Windows 7, dictating into Outlook 2010 and even though we are certain that Outlook is in focus, the dictated text appearing in the most recently opened Word 2010 document she has open.

Closing and reopening Outlook fixes it. But it also happened yesterday towards the end of the day.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Load on boot

alext432 — Thu, 16 May 2013 14:52:26 EST

*I could cry (I think)*

I've just installed dragon 12 and to my horror it appears that you still do not have the option to fully load DNS when you computer boot. Is this correct?

If so how do I go about setting it up?

Thanks

DNS 11.5 freezing problem with Windows Vista

steamcat — Thu, 16 May 2013 14:39:43 EST

I just started using Dragon NaturallySpeaking version 11.5 in April. My problem is that the application freezes up at least once a day and I have to do a reboot to get to work again. So far I've found no consistency in why it should lock up.

I'm running Windows Vista SP2 with 4 GB of RAM. We've put in for a replacement PC that will be running Windows 7 and starting out with 4 GB of RAM. Other forums have suggested using as much as 16 GB of RAM but I think that must be overkill. Perhaps 8 GB is sufficient?

I'm wondering if other users have experienced the same problem with Windows Vista and if upgrading to Windows 7 with more RAM has solved the issue. Any hints, thoughts, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I believe the application has great potential but right now I'm finding it very frustrating.

Microphones sleep\on

Jomark — Thu, 16 May 2013 07:19:45 EST

I have found that almost every time that I say the word "egg"I can switch the microphone on from sleep mode.

12, restore old profile?

pe2dave — Thu, 16 May 2013 05:27:22 EST

My PC broke. Hard Drive OK

New PC. installed DNS, no problem. Registered it.

I'm now left with a months worth of learned words etc in a profile I don't seem

to be able to import?

Is this possible please

Reistall v 12.5 -- can't recognize old version disks

joeroot — Wed, 15 May 2013 16:27:18 EST

After a spectacular seize-up that wiped my profile, I decided to reinstall v12.5. I uninstalled and ran the cleanup program. Running the install disk, after taking the serial number, a dialog asked to see a "qualyfing" version, by inserting an old disk. I have disks for v11.5 Premium, 11.0 Premium, and 10.0 Preferred, and i tried them all. in each instance, i inserted the disk and hit enter, but the dialog simply reappeared with no other message. Typing specific information, sych as "setup.exe", with and without long location identifiers, also didn't work.

How can I get beyond this?

Thanks,

Joe

WinXP 32bit + DNS Medical 10.1 - > Win7 64bit + ?

tsupport — Wed, 15 May 2013 15:09:34 EST

We are on the verge of upgrading from XP to Win7 so I am wondering if we should also upgrade our DNS Medical from version 10.1. Are there major benefits? Is the transition fairly simple for end users? We do not have many sophisticated macros.

Thanks.

DNS 11 + SDL Trados 11

Olivier Den Hartigh — Wed, 15 May 2013 13:53:29 EST

Hi everybody,

I'm a translator and I'm using DNS with SDL Trados 11 SP2. Whenever I go from one segment (sentence) to the next, DNS does not capitalize the sentence. How could I set up DNS so it automatically puts a capital letter at the beginning of every sentence (segment)?

Any help, please?

Regards, Olivier

Some spoken forms not working in v12/12.5

rickdns — Wed, 15 May 2013 02:22:21 EST

Since upgrading to version 12 and then 12.5 (Pro), I have had a few spoken forms relating, in particular, to units of measure that no longer work properly. They all worked perfectly well in versions 11/11.5. On the other hand, there are other spoken forms which do work as well as they used to.

Generally, the spoken form appears. I correct it, and for the next instance of the same "error", the correct form may or may not come up as a correction option. Interestingly (and a frustratingly) if I dictate the the words into the Vocabulary Editor, it will often come up in the form I want! In version 11/11.5, I would define something train it, and it would work.

I have tried the following in various combinations and permutations:

enabling and disabling units of measure in the formatting options
defining them as alternate forms, both with the option to use before/after numbers checked and unchecked
defining both a spoken form an alternate form at the same time
training and retraining them, especially after correction
creating a new profile (done this a few times to troubleshoot a host of other problems with v12/12.5 - please don't suggest this, I will not do it again)
complete uninstall using a tool from the Nuance support, and reinstall

I have my dictation and correction workflow fairly well worked out, but these are words that I use fairly often, and it has become time-consuming to have to correct them every time.

Some of the problematic words are (with "units of measure" disabled in the formatting options):

mM - millimoles per litre
mg/mmol - milligrams per millimole
½ - a half
¼ - a quarter
/L - per litre
g/day - grams per day

Other words which have continued to work properly:

µM - micromoles per litre
pM - picomoles per litre
nM - nanomoles per litre
mU/L - milliunits per litre

I really don't want to try redefining the problematic words with spoken forms that I don't use in my everyday language (such as millimolars for mM); when I am dictating I really need to concentrate on my message not how I am saying it.

Thanks in advance for your considered help.

Rick

Mouse Grid inactive

Debdim — Tue, 14 May 2013 21:34:21 EST

Greetings, I am currently supporting a woman who is quadraplegic and has been using DNS for almost 12 years. She recently upgraded to Windows 7 and DNS version 11.5 Premium. Computer has plenty of processing speed and memory.

Product was working well until someone upgraded - Norton. Since then, mouse grid stopped functioning. Today I uninstalled and reinstalled the Dragon. Now, we can see the mouse grid momentarily but then it immediately disappears.

I have searched for answers but cannot figure out what is going on. Norton is the only thing that has changed on the her system. . . that we know about.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Deb Dimmick, ALLTECH www.alltech-tsi.org

Where Technology is About People!

Recognition of word that is not in vocabulary

edmart — Tue, 14 May 2013 15:14:38 EST

I do not like using 'email'. I prefer 'e-mail'.

I deleted 'email' from the vocabulary.

I now have in the vocabulary 'e-mail' pure and simple; and 'e-mail' with a spoken form of 'email'.

Yet when I dictate the word, Dragon gives me 'email'.

How come, given that it is not in its vocabulary?

In DNS 12, is it possible to hide the Green flame that follows theprocess dictations?

LAPIII — Tue, 14 May 2013 12:03:53 EST

Right clicking and selecting Auto-hide doesn't seem to do anything

DNS 11.5 pro memory leak

Fitzy — Tue, 14 May 2013 02:09:58 EST

Via Windows Task Manager I noticed a memory leak in "audiodg.exe", I'm working on fixing it through Microsoft's technical forums. It appears to have something to do with Creative's X-Fi audio cards. I use an Andrea USB Soundpod, so the soundcard shouldn't have anything to do with it?

Whilst in "Task Manager" I also noticed that I have a memory leak in NatSpeak.exe. Memory only leaks when the microphone is either on or asleep and not when the microphone is off.

Together these two programs can chew up gigabytes worth of memory in a day, so obviously I'd like to fix it.

Questions are… Are they related, so if I fix "audiodg.exe" the NaturallySpeaking problem will go away?
Or is the NatSpeak memory leak a known issue and therefore a fix has been worked out? (I checked the forums and found nothing). I guess it could be a virus/malware, but I scan for those everyday.

Where to start chasing this down?

XML import crashes DNS 12.5 Pro

mizmac58 — Mon, 13 May 2013 20:34:26 EST

Over the weekend I installed the 12.5 patch. Before that, I exported my custom vocabs into both txt and xml formats. I did a bunch of cleanup on them. Then I installed 12.5 and created a new voice model b/c I knew my other had corruptions in it. It is a detailed process I went through that may not affect this question, so I won't go into it. But, when I got to the point of doing the Import custom list and opened one of the XML files that I had exported, it causes Dragon to completely shut down without any type of error message whatsoever.

This is trying to import in the new profile and not the old one that has some corruption in it. Any ideas? Has anyone tried doing this in 12.5 yet to see if they get the same results?

Thanks.

enlarging the default font in DNS Preferred 9.5

Captain — Mon, 13 May 2013 14:24:48 EST

Instructions from KnowBrainer say to locate the options.ini file -- in order to enlarge the default font.

The options.ini file doesn't display in Windows Explorer or as a search result in Windows Search Results (XP).

Is there a work-around I could use in order to enlarge the default font in my DNS Preferred 9.5?

low system resources recovery

Jomark — Sun, 12 May 2013 10:09:51 EST

Whilst using DNS12 and VoiceComputer I encountered a problem when DNS stopped working and my computer froze and I received a message attempting to recover from low system resources.

What caused this as I have i7 processor and 12GB ram Win7 64bit and looking at task manager very little in the way of resources appeared to be used.

What to do about Mr shields

Trionalaw — Sat, 11 May 2013 13:51:53 EST

I searched but could not find an answer to my dilemma. It probably exists but I just am not smart enough to figure it out. I have gone to the vocabulary editor and deleted "Mr shields." I then added "Mr. Shields" gave the spoken form which is "Mr shields." I trained it. But I still get "Mr shields".

What am I doing wrong?

As always, thanks so much.

Jim

DNS 12.5 Quits After 5 minutes.

G.J. Premo — Fri, 10 May 2013 16:17:48 EST

DNS 12.5 Perferred, Win7-64.

After 5 mintues, DNS is quiting working.

Rebooted, and still it is happening. Happened 4 times in row now.

DNS goes totally nonresponsive, click the microphone icon does nothing.

Reinstallation time?

how to set up Dragon 12.5 for use with Remote Desktop

dbourque — Fri, 10 May 2013 12:52:06 EST

i have dragon 12.5 installed on my office computer which is running windows 7 ultimate. I want to be able to use dragon from my home office on my laptoprunning windoes 7 pro. how/what do i do to set it up? Nuance Technical support was absolutely clueless about this even though its use over remote desktop is stated as one of its new key features. Thanks ,dan

Dragon medical 12

Rag — Fri, 10 May 2013 03:41:48 EST

The 2 big reviews I will look forward to are:

1) the knowbrainer review

2) Mark (MDH)

Cant wait. If its anything like V12 premium then it must be good.V11 was good........but then there were problems. Ive got the UK med version and I can't fault it, but reckon with the V12 engine that it might be quite good.

Mark if you can do a first date/second date with DMPE(v12) etc that would be cool as we were able to work out over time what your feelings were with V11.

Lunis as always will look forward to the KB review. It can't be long now for Med 12. Maybe 8 weeks at the most

InstallScript is not found on my computer

Captain — Thu, 09 May 2013 22:56:40 EST

During my attempt to install, the InstallScript engine wasn't found on my computer, so my installation won't proceed. If anyone could suggest a solution to this, I would be grateful.

Windows 8 startup

GBC — Thu, 09 May 2013 21:54:14 EST

Is it possible to start Windows 8, with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 12.5 already running, without having to manually open the lock screen?

Microsoft 365

PLB — Thu, 09 May 2013 19:24:39 EST

My company will be moving to Microsoft Office 365 this fall. Is it fully compatible with DNS, and is there anything I should do to prepare. Thanks.

Paul

Due to - coming out as 22, or to two, or do to, or anything but due to - thoughts?

Marklarian — Wed, 08 May 2013 13:35:11 EST

Any thoughts on improving the consistency for the phrase "due to" would be appreciated.

DNS installation from external drive

Captain — Wed, 08 May 2013 12:26:10 EST

I'm going to restore my Dell E-510 to factory specs and don't know how many installations are left on my DNS 9.5 Preferred.

If there are no more installations left on my DNS 9.5 Preferred, would it be a good idea to attempt an installation of DNS 9.5 Preferred, using the 1.81 GB folder copy that's on my external hard drive? It includes Ereg, Help, Program,, tutorial, and user folders.

Lost ability to "see and say" click tab names

dwicker — Tue, 07 May 2013 23:41:12 EST

I support the usage of Dragon Medical Enterprise (and now Dragon Medical 10.1) for our Pathology Department, which uses the commercial CoPathPlus pathology system. The CoPathPlus system uses PowerBuilder to provide its user interface and Word as its text editor.

The CoPathPlus windows have a tab interface as well as labeled buttons and a windows-like menu bar.

We have used successfully used Windows XP Pro for years and are now in the process of switching to Windows 7.

In the past, with previous version of Dragon Medical and CoPathPlus, we have been able to say the label of the tabs shown in the CoPathPlus windows and Dragon clicks the tab.

With the latest version of CoPathPlus, Office 2010, Dragon Medical 10.1 and Windows XP, this capability continues. Saying the Tab label clicks the Tab in CoPathPlus.

All of the above programs are supposed to be compatible with Windows 7.

I have recently received a test Windows 7 PC with the same versions of the above programs, and I have found that Dragon now no longer clicks the CoPathPlus tabs when their label name is uttered. Instead, Dragon sends the uttered text to the CoPathPlus application.

As far as I know, the only change is that now the above suite of programs is running on Windows 7 instead of Windows XP.

Does anyone know have any ideas why Dragon Medical 10.1 now does not “see” the tab names in the PowerBuilder application window (CoPathPlus) when running under Windows 7 rather than Windows XP?

This is significant to my suite of Dragon macros, since some of them use the Heardword command to click particular Tabs. Now those Heardword commands don’t work.

Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks.

Will Dragon NaturallySpeaking be the next application to go subscription only?

DavidW — Tue, 07 May 2013 04:58:10 EST

Yesterday, Adobe made their expected announcement about the upgrade to Creative Suite, following their annual upgrade cycle of recent years. The announcement was that there will be no more outright purchase perpetual licence versions of Adobe Creative Suite. For now, Creative Suite 6 (released a year ago) will remain on sale and will receive security updates.

In recent years, there's been a dual model for the Creative Suite applications - outright purchase or subscription. From now on, Adobe are only going to take the CS applications - now renamed CC - forwards on the subscription Creative Cloud model. The Creative Cloud pricing is roughly in line with the recent prices for a one-off upgrade of Creative Suite Master Collection this year, but has steadily risen since first introduced. Once customers start to use CC only features, they're locked into paying if they want access to their files, so Adobe can hike the price considerably, especially as they have few competitors (there are alternatives for desktop publishing, video and sound work, but nobody else has such an all-encompassing offering). I believe Creative Cloud is an 'all or nothing' product - you cannot subscribe to just PhotoShop at a lower price, for example, which will lock out many 'prosumers' who have historically bought one or two Creative Suite applications.

I've no idea whether Acrobat and Lightroom will remain available as standalone products, or whether Acrobat XI and Lightroom 4 are the last outright purchase versions.

I detest subscription software. I can see the attraction, in that the company has a steady revenue stream, the up-front cost is lower and customers always have the latest version (which may be incrementally upgraded, rather than a big new version every year or two). Any copies of subscription software found on sale must be pirated.

The main problem with subscription software is that you lose access to the software when you stop paying. This is more an issue with something like Creative Cloud, where you lose access to your files in the CC file formats when you stop paying, than with something like Dragon NaturallySpeaking, which isn't the gatekeeper to any of your data. There's also accounting issues for companies, which may or may not be positive: purchased software is an asset, whilst subscription software is a service.

There seems to be a steady move to dual model (subscription and outright purchase) for desktop software, followed by the outright purchase option being dropped. Mindjet (formerly MindManager) went dual model then onto an outrageously expensive subscription. Microsoft Office is now dual model, but I wonder if Office 2013 is the last outright purchase edition of Office. Microsoft developer tools, server versions of Windows and Microsoft server applications are dual model, as the choice is between outright purchase and licence arrangements - but in most cases the subscription option is the only one that makes economic sense because you have very limited upgrade options outside an ongoing licence with upgrades included. If desktop Windows moves towards smaller incremental updates, as seems possible with talk of Windows 8.1 being released this summer, it may go to a de-facto subscription model (like Mac OS X, where each update is relatively inexpensive, but software and peripheral vendors drop support for older OS versions fairly quickly).

I'm not trying to give Nuance ideas, but I wonder if the professional editions of the next version of Dragon will go subscription only - including the yet to be released Medical edition of Dragon 12.

I have already boycotted Mindjet - I don't get enough value from their product to pay the outrageous sum asked. I've yet to find a replacement that meets my requirements amongst other outright purchase or free software, but my existing perpetual licence version is fine for now. I suspect I'll eventually lose the ability to use their cloud storage, which will also stop me using their Android app, but I can live with that. Most of my mind maps are too large to use effectively on a phone or tablet anyway. Once I finish my degree, I won't mind too much if I lose access to my existing suite of maps.

I shall boycott Adobe for as long as possible. Now that I'm freed from having to upgrade each year to keep my upgrade entitlement active, I see no reason to start paying and start creating files I can't access with software I own. I may upgrade my standalone copy of Acrobat to a perpetual Acrobat XI Pro licence.

Creative Suite 6 does everything I need at the moment, and will work on Windows 7 and 8. It will be compatibility that will likely force my hand in the end - Adobe don't update obsolete versions of Camera Raw for new cameras, so once I upgrade my digital SLR to a camera that isn't supported by the Creative Suite 6 / Lightroom 4 version of Camera Raw, I will likely have to upgrade. At some point in the future, a new version of Windows will break Creative Suite 6, but it will only be viable to keep using Windows 8 for a few years because of an eventual lack of Windows 8 drivers for new hardware.

I fully expect Adobe to drop compatibility options in the CC applications - removing options to save files compatible with older versions of their applications, and stop issuing updates to the free DNG converter (which allows you to convert files from newer cameras to an intermediate that older versions of Camera Raw will understand).

What do others think? Is subscription software a positive development, or do others fear being locked into paying to retain access to your files as much as I do? As many users with more complex needs on limited budgets rely on the Advanced Scripting features of the Professional edition of Dragon NaturallySpeaking to use their computers, I can foresee major issues with access to computing if professional editions of Dragon go subscription only.

If the move to expensive subscription software continues, I can see many home users boycotting Windows completely. With an external keyboard, and simple word processor and spreadsheet apps, a 10 inch tablet will suffice for many users. If the majority of your use is web and social media, you don't need a Windows machine any more.

Training digital recorder

Allan — Mon, 06 May 2013 18:55:44 EST

I have noted the directions for changing enrollment text at

There is an undocumented training option in Version 11 that I find works nicely. Choose "Show text without Prompting," select one of the readings, and then ignore it. Read ANY text for four minutes. See:

Can one make this work for a digital sound source input?

ajg

Where is user profile in Win 7 Dragon 10.1 set up?

wilforbis — Mon, 06 May 2013 18:41:57 EST

I know I've found it before but I am blanking today. Just did a reinstall of Windows, reinstalled Dragon, but can't find where it's putting user data these days. I suspect it's somewhere in the C:Users dit but can't track it down.

Thanks!

Compatible text editors

Kare Morstol — Mon, 06 May 2013 18:17:38 EST

Is there a list of text editors that are fully compatible with Dragon NaturallySpeaking? As in let's me mix keyboard and mouse input with dictation? Besides Word, DragonPad, WordPad and Notepad I haven't been able to find any. I realise they need to be SAPI compatible, but there doesn't seem to be many of them.

Specifically I'm looking for a text editor that is more configurable than WordPad and Notepad. All that white background is hurting my eyes.

Just had a Win 7 HARDWARE upgrade

StGeorge — Mon, 06 May 2013 16:21:19 EST

I am hesitating at doing a reinstall, because I remember the problems I had doing the original plus upgrades. What is the best way to approach this problem? Obviously, I have to get started and do it, but should I put in Dragon 12, first, then the upgrade, then Knowbrainer? I am just reluctant, I guess, to get started. Need some encouragement, I think.

Two acoustic sources for one profile

Allan — Mon, 06 May 2013 11:45:14 EST

I use different microphones at different computer locations with different acoustic backgrounds. Will one source affect the other?

ajg

I'm thinking of upgrading from DNS 10.1 Preferred ...

KBUser — Mon, 06 May 2013 11:17:07 EST

... to DNS 12 Premium. If I do can I impose my saved speech data files to DNS 12 or will I have to discard them and train DNS 12 Premium afresh?

I have also read that DNS 12 Premium doesn't like some other software programs to be on the same computer with it. If this is true does anyone know what they are?

I use WinXP Professional on a 64 bit machine with 6 MG Ram. DNS 10.1 runs OK on it except for the odd recognition hassle.

Thanks in advance.

"Close Window" command stopped working

Cahilc — Sun, 05 May 2013 13:19:31 EST

All of a sudden "

close window" command has stopped executing. Recognition history shows it as a command, but it doesn't close the active window anymore.

It may be coincidence, but I just installed SmartNav, and that is when I noticed this command no longer work

s. I have been saying "Press f9" to urn SmartNav on and off, also tried disconnecting SmartNav, but the command still doesn't execute.

Any idea what caused it to stop working, and more importantly, how to get it to work again? This is a command I use frequently, and I need to get it back. Also, is there another voice command that does the same thing, i.e closes the active window?

Thanks,

Candy

Watch Me Use Dragon on the Web for 3 Minutes

GDS — Sun, 05 May 2013 09:55:28 EST

All,

Wordpress is one of my favorite platforms. I use it for my blog, and one of the reasons I choose to do so is that the core development team has a commitment to making their platform accessibile. Recently I conducted a usability test for the WordPress Accessibility team. A key feature of a usability test is to have the user narrate their experience. As such, I used a switch to control the microphone rather than "go to sleep" -- didn't want to disrupt the video with extra voice commands.

There's not a lot of context here. Since usability tests are about stream of consciousness, I'm rarely precise in desribing the on-screen interaction. But if you've ever wanted a video of a Dragon user on the web, here's one.

There may be more bits to come, or the whole hour long test might be released. Please let me know if you're going to reproduce or repurpose it, and if you're going to share please link back to my blog or this thread.

Cheers,

We don't have to be kept waiting for Dragon to finish

RogerC — Sun, 05 May 2013 02:04:45 EST

Isn't it maddening to be kept waiting for Dragon to finish typing before you can move the cursor to correct its errors? Dragon is trying to insert text at the point where the cursor is, instead of where the cursor was. Yet it is straightforward programming to separate those two locations. Let's say it is just for DragonPad, with the microphone keyed to off.

The audio file has time markers in it, so it is straightforward to calculate exactly when a syllable was spoken. At the same time it is routine programming to record a new position of the cursor and the exact time when you clicked its new position. So these are two separate locations -- the moving position where Dragon is typing its carefully considered dictation, and the other where you are busy punching at the keyboard to edit the existing text.

It is true that any editing you do while you're waiting for Dragon to get on with its job can change the character map. However it is again routine programming for Dragon to repeatedly access the character map for any updates.

Similarly Dragon could be left to continue with its output while you go off to check your email, for example. We don't want to be kept waiting by a tool we should be able to take for granted. It is supposed to speed up our work, not delay it. What do you think?

(I have 16 GB RAM, 2 procs at 2.66 GHz, bluetooth mike, DNS for about six years, now version 12.5, and I am working on both Win7 and Win8 machines)

Misrecognition of "Page Down", question about"field/box" command

tfritz1 — Fri, 03 May 2013 19:20:10 EST

Question #1. In the command to select a field I say "box". What often comes up is a dialogue asking if I would like the secure version of the web-page or the unsecure version, "yes" or "no". If I choose "yes", I get a written form of the numbers Choose 1" -"Choose X " with a box around it that often obscures the website itself. If I choose "no", which I almost always do, because I just get the little number surrounded by a little box that is colored red or green and is usually beside the box I want to choose.

Is there anyway to make Dragon always choose "no"?

Question #2. I often have the command "Page Down" not employ because it hears "-based sound" or "base down". Now I know my voice is often uninteligable, yet Dragon understands me most of the time. In this instance, it does not and I often need to turn to using the keyboard, which is quite difficult for me.

Does anybody have an idea on why this is happening and how to fix it, other than the obvious 'Dragon is just not understanding you'?

Dragon NaturallySpeaking menu selection issue in Microsoft Office

handienterprises — Fri, 03 May 2013 16:41:35 EST

Hello,

I am a certified Dragon trainer who was training a client this morning when I encountered an issue that I have never seen before. I was taking the client through Microsoft Office 2010 when we attempted to select the menu such as home and insert by voice. When we executed the home command the grocer would attempt to click on that menubar but the menu would not switch. When we attempted to access the other menus such as view or review the menus would switch to the next menu beside the menu that we wanted. The option menu looks fine I even tried to test it by resetting the options default. This happened in every Microsoft Office program but it behave normally in all other programs. The operating system is Windows 7 premium and we are running a Dragon 12 without the .5 update

Any suggestions or thoughts?

Any Windows 8 specific commands?

cy_borg5 — Fri, 03 May 2013 12:48:04 EST

I'm a long time DNS user currently running 12.5 on a Windows 7 desktop. This afternoon FedEx will be bringing me a new Windows 8 non-touchscreen laptop that I intend to install DNS 12.5. I'm wondering if there are any special commands available for navigating the "Metro" start screen or other Windows 8 specific features? What looks at the Nuance website and various places where it talks about "desktop" commands all of which I am familiar with but I was wondering/hoping (possibly in vain) that there might be some new features that would help you navigate Windows 8. Otherwise I guess I'm just going to be using lots of keypress commands.

how to know dragon triggered mouse click

mpgutta — Fri, 03 May 2013 07:18:15 EST

Hi,

in my webpage i am writing javascript click event. I would like to do some custom stuff if mouse click is triggered by Dragon naturally speaking. So is there any way to know in javascript if a mouse click is triggered by DNS or simple mouse click by website user?

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,

Mohan

DNS sleep durations

bmac — Thu, 02 May 2013 16:28:18 EST

here is a portion of my DNS log showing DNS 12.5 going into never never land for 14-15 seconds. Does anyone know what the reason might be by looking at this log?

16:09:24 LOG (Perf): DgnSAPI paused -> BeginUtt = 13221 msec

16:09:25 S2: Error: missing additional score for grammar 0B153BA8

16:09:25 SigQual[ uD 2365 | Nd 0 | sN 23 | cD 0 | wF 0x00 | aF 0x00 | dA 0.0 [63470] | sA 21.2 [63470] | Rt D ]

16:09:39 Final Termination of temporary instance

Can DragonPad be customized?

dagst47 — Thu, 02 May 2013 14:08:04 EST

Using DNS Professional, running on Windows 7.

Is it possible to customize the apperance of DragonPad? I could make more use of it if I could do some basic things, like make the background dark with light text (I work in a dark room, so the white page is hard on the eyes). I know it sounds trivial, but that's a really strong requirement in my work place and precludes my use of DragonPad for text entry.

There are no "conventional" ways that I can see to accomplish this through the available menus in the application- anyone have any other ideas?

Thanks!

-D

DNS 12.5 Professional, Windows 7.