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Topic Title: Why is windows speech recognition better than dragon medical professional 11?
Topic Summary: I have found that windows speech recognition seems vastly superior untrained when compared to dragon medical 11. It even seems to be better trained than a well trained (I have read all the training text in dragon medical professional). Admittedly it is
Created On: 12/13/2011 05:59 PM
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 12/13/2011 05:59 PM
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eye will
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I have just spent several days training dragon medical professional 11 and as a laugh I decided to try out on my new laptop the windows speech recognition software. I used to use it with my old computer using vista, and found it quite useless. This seems to have changed remarkably in windows seven version. I have a 64 bit processor with 4 GB of RAM and an I7 processor. The initial results with the medical professional 11 without any training was actually quite poor. After all the training it did seem to improve dramatically. It was pretty good at the medical recognition which is what I would expect. But on reading a newspaper it got numerous common words completely wrong.

During my quick test of windows speech recognition I was amazingly surprised, but without any training at all he had managed to recognise practically everything I said. I read an extract from the newspaper and it recognized David Cameron instantly.

Has the window speech recognition software been significantly improved since windows vista .

Will I be wasting my money upgrading from medical professional 9, to medical professional 11 if windows 7speech recognition software can do the job for me if I train a medical dictionary. Can I import the dictionary from dragon medical 9. Or can I import a word list.  

 12/13/2011 09:49 PM
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Lunis Orcutt
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Did you read the newspaper with DMPE utilizing a medical vocabulary? The reason we ask is because Dragon Medical is highly specialized and if you attempt any form a standard dictation (such as dictating a general e-mail or reading from a magazine), you will likely experience less than stellar results. 1 of the perks of DMPE is being able to switch vocabularies without creating a new user profile. We recommend rerunning this experiment using the general-large vocabulary.

We are also impressed by WSR but speech recognition isn't just dictation. Although WSR works reasonably well with short phrases, we found its accuracy fell a bit short when dictating in longer phrases. Dragon NaturallySpeaking includes numerous advantages including the ability to process quadgrams vs WSR trigrams (three-word phrases).


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 12/14/2011 09:07 PM
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Amin Sabet
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1 of the perks of DMPE is being able to switch vocabularies without creating a new user profile. We recommend rerunning this experiment using the general-large vocabulary.

After reading your post, I just experimented and realized that I can change vocabularies without creating a new user profile in Dragon Medical 10.1. I changed to the general large vocabulary just now. Wow! All of a sudden, it's useful for so much more than just medical documentation.

 12/14/2011 06:16 AM
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eye will
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Thank you I will try and do that and see if it improves things. I must admit the ability to dictate into medical records software is a definite advantage. I am actually using Dragon Medical 11 in the UK, if that makes a difference?
 12/14/2011 05:36 PM
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I have now added the general vocabulary to the Dragon Medical 11 software and it has managed to almost flawlessly allow me to dictate the daily paper, using words like David Cameron and Nick Clegg and Andy Burnham, without having to train them. I must admit I am now very impressed with the software again, I'm still very impressed with Windows speech recognition software considering that it comes free with the Windows 7 program. But as I am managing to dictate using Dragon medical professional 11 and not having to correct what I say at last I feel that speech recognition software has got way it always need to be. Using just a noise cancelling Plantronics 400 headset and Plantronics USB adapter costing me £15 I cannot fault the result is that I'm getting. I do feel a bit of an idiot wearing a headset so I am going to try wireless CS-60 USB headset which hopefully maybe even better than the one I'm using. When I'm feeling rich I may go for the speech Mike three and one, but I cannot imagine that it will provide much better speech recognition than what I'm attaining at the present time.

 

Lunis, thank you very much for your help, it is very much appreciated. 

 12/14/2011 10:21 PM
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There is a slight disadvantage to some of the consumer grade microphones such as the Plantronics CS60-USB in that they have a somewhat limited frequency response. 1 the most impressive Dragon Medical 11 innovations is the new sampling rate which is double the sampling rate of the previous versions of DNS. Unfortunately, many consumer grade microphones cannot take full advantage of the higher frequency response. We have found that WSR seems to work a little bit better with consumer grade microphones. If you add a professional microphone, such as the SpeechWare 3-in-1, to WSR you would appreciate higher accuracy but you would likely appreciate and an even higher accuracy improvement in Dragon 11.

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