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Topic Title: Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable
Topic Summary: Where can I buy an Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable for it in the UK?
Created On: 03/10/2012 11:14 AM
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 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/10/2012 11:14 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/10/2012 05:56 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/11/2012 09:47 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/11/2012 05:23 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/12/2012 02:57 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/14/2012 05:59 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/14/2012 10:11 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/16/2012 07:59 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/17/2012 04:18 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/17/2012 06:46 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/17/2012 07:12 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/17/2012 09:52 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - phils - 03/17/2012 11:25 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/17/2012 12:30 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - phils - 03/17/2012 12:49 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/17/2012 05:17 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/17/2012 07:58 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/18/2012 06:53 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/19/2012 07:13 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Chucker - 03/19/2012 07:39 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/19/2012 09:20 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/19/2012 10:54 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - phils - 03/19/2012 01:33 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/19/2012 02:41 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - phils - 03/19/2012 03:17 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/19/2012 03:40 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/19/2012 07:12 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/19/2012 08:07 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/19/2012 10:08 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/20/2012 06:56 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/20/2012 10:32 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - monkey8 - 03/20/2012 11:39 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/24/2012 03:51 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Chucker - 03/24/2012 06:50 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - supee - 03/24/2012 07:36 AM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - Nelson - 03/11/2012 05:21 PM  
 Samson Q7 Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable   - brainybanana - 03/19/2012 07:41 PM  
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Hi all.

I have just bought a Sammson Q7 mic . 

Where can I buy an Unbalanced XLR to 1/8"(3.5mm) cable for it in the UK?

Can it not work with a balanced cable? And Why?

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One of the advantages of purchasing the Samson Q7 from a local Nuance certified speech recognition speech recognition solutions provider is that they typically carry the correct 15 Foot XLR Cable. Although we carry this item, UK shipping would be a bit high so we see recommend contacting Lindsay Adam, Peter Maddern or Graham Henry.

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unfortunately, I did not see this microphone advertised on websites of UK resellers of speech recognition products, and I had to buy from a music company.

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The XLR cable that is designed to work on the Q7 also works with the Samson Airline 77 and Sennheiser MD431 II so you might want to directly contact those resellers rather than just looking on their websites. The appropriate cable might be sold as an add-on option and may not be viewable directly. The XLR cables in many music stores will not work on the Q7, for speech recognition because they are wired differently. This is another reason to check with your local speech recognition resellers.

Also note that it was speech recognition resellers who introduced the Q7 and the Airline 77 to the speech recognition world; after making a few adaptations. Music stores don't dedicate any resources to promoting speech recognition so we only recommend them as a last resort.


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I certainly will rather buy from a speech recognition reseller, however resellers in the UK are not as active. I have sent e-mails to them but I have not had any reply, even though I've received several helpful comments and replies from you. It's unfortunate that we cannot buy from KnowBrainer due to the problem of distance and custom duties.I've eventually located two places to buy this cable,.thanks again for all your help.

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I eventually connected the microphone to the Samson Q7, which I have connected to the USB pod. it did not pass the audio setup wizard, but when I listen to the dictation, it appears clear. Is there anything else I need to do?

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You can probably ignore the failing score because the DNS Audio Check is tuned to headset microphones. We've seen a number of professional microphones, including the SpeechWare 3-in-1, fail to pass the Audio Check. As long as the blue bar is more or less in the middle position and the audio sounds good, ignore the rest (unless you're experiencing substandard accuracy).

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We now supply all three cable options with each microphone, sorry we cannot compete pricewise in the UK. However we feel that you are all overly paranoid about balanced cables, there is actually no difference between the signal in an unbalanced or a balanced cable, the only differences that the balanced cable cuts out interference and is probably recommended for distances over 10 m or if you can hear audible interference. If you seriously think that DNS from a programming point of view can pick up any difference otherwise…

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I would have thought the balanced cable which cuts out any interference will be better for speech recognition. Can someone explain this to me. it would be nice to know

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A balanced cable which cuts out interference would be better in any circumstance where there was interference.  An average user will have a cable running from his Samson receiver to something like a buddy USB 6G and the length of the cable will be less than 2 m.  You are extremely unlikely to get any interference in such circumstances and in anything like such circumstances (even if the cable was 5 m).  That is why we feel a balanced cable is unnecessary, and although I am sure Lunis can talk for himself that is also why I expect KnowBrainer supply Samson Airline 77s with unbalanced cables.

I am a complete cable freak when it comes to things like £3000 hi-fi systems where, as an example, you run an RCA cable between a CD player and a high-quality amplifier, spending £75 on a gold connector cable is justifiable and has benefits to the discerning listener.

However a sound system is only as good as the weakest link in the chain, using a high-quality XLR balanced cable to plug into your Buddy USB 6G is only going to be as good as the quality of the 3.5 mm input socket of the Buddy USB 6G.  Considering this is made probably in China for less than $.50 I think you will see where I am going to.  Don't get me wrong the Buddy USB 6G is a great soundpod for speech recognition but the quality of sound necessary for speech recognition and the quality of sound that DNS is able to gain advantage from is a good bit less than any requirements in a high-quality recording studio.  I don't think Janet and Jim Baker ever set out with the intention of very high quality audio equipment being necessary for good results with speech recognition although we all appreciate that a decent quality microphone and soundcard helps (particularly in terms of noise cancellation in my opinion).

 

Now the above is just my opinion and if you prefer to have a balanced XLR cable then that is completely up to you and that is why we are now providing them with Samson Airline 77s (however the choice will be optional once I update the website), however in my opinion in most, if not all, cases they are completely unnecessary unless you have an audible problem with interference.  The science behind balanced cables is very simple and all they do is run an extra line with an inverse phase signal, this effectively allows any interference to be nullified when you add the normal phase and inverse phase signals together.

 

Lastly I am well aware that this is the KnowBrainer forum and always grateful to Lunis for the lack of censorship particularly in terms of things like having my website address to the bottom of my posts.  However I like to think he puts up with this because we do contribute to the forum a lot and have done over the years.  However I fully understand if any links need to be removed.  Personally I don't have any problems with people buying equipment in the USA and I have done so myself over the years but the reason I am posting this is to let you know that there are UK suppliers and we do listen to what prospective customers might think as well as going to great lengths in supporting any equipment we sell.  We do have great difficulty competing price rise and this is usually because of the price we are supplied at.

 

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Actually balanced xlr cables that connects to 3.5 mm audio port are widely available, but unbalanced cables were difficult to find for me. Does this mean that I don't need an unbalanced cable?

The impression I had was that I needed an unbalanced cable to use these with the computer. Which will perform better for speech recognition – a balanced cable or an unbalanced cable?



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If you have an unbalanced XLR cable and it sounds clear then leave it at that.  You could have done the same thing by just putting a 3.5 mm adapter on the unbalanced cable that comes with any Samson (quarter inch jack plug to quarter inch jack plug) which is why getting hold of unbalanced XLR cables is difficult.  You would get that as standard from a speech recognition dealer but not from a music shop.  The whole point of the three pin XLR plugs is so that you can balance the cable

If you do get interference or you are running the cable over long distances and that was when we would recommend a balanced XLR cable.

So who told you that you needed an unbalanced XLR cable anyway?

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by just putting a 3.5 mm adapter on the unbalanced cable that comes with any Samson (quarter inch jack plug to quarter inch jack plug)

 

I don't really agree with that statement. There are about half a dozen posts per year on problems caused by adapters, from lack of consistent mechanical contact due to crappy cheap manufacturing tolerances. I am just disabled enough that I want to minimize the need for any mechanical fiddling once everything is up and running so no wiring adapters for me.

With all the pod-casting and amateur recording studios out there, Tip-Ring-Sleeve (TRS) wiring conventions for PC audio combined with the EIA/AES spec XLR standards make it easy to source a decent cable (yes I am ignoring some Pin 1 subtleties for best low noise pro audio ).

This is not about balance vs. unbalanced for noise in my opinion but rather about mechanical reliability.  All the Speech Recognition vendors and consultants should offer them as an option.

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I don't really agree with that statement. There are about half a dozen posts per year on problems caused by adapters, from lack of consistent mechanical contact due to crappy cheap manufacturing tolerances. I am just disabled enough that I want to minimize the need for any mechanical fiddling once everything is up and running so no wiring adapters for me


It's a fair point Phil in terms of robustness and reliability of connections with adapters, particularly if you are using cheap and nasty adapters like you say, which we don't and presumably KnowBrainer don't.  Besides you can always have a directly connected quarter inch Jack to 3.5 mm jack.  I agree with your point on the mechanicity of the XLR connector particularly if you are plugging in and out all the time.  I worked as a sound engineer in my early 20s and when you are constantly plugging in microphones, speaker cables etc there is nothing worse than jack plugs that break all the time.  Hence why we always used Canon plugs (3 pin XLR type).

However the point was made in terms of sound quality and robustness required in terms of a PC set up, and if you do go to the expense of buying an XLR cable then why not buy a balanced one (that's what we supply and Lunis supplies as optional), they are not that much more expensive, and then you remove any potential interference potential at the same time. 

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Agree about the merits of balanced cable, as opposed to unbalanced (I'm old enough to have some of the guys I first worked in recording and broadcasting with refer to them as "Cannon Connectors"

Even if you aren't re-plugging all the time, an inadvertent tug on a cable with an adapter can kill your DNS connection. The cable-adapter that comes with the $300 plus Samson is cheaply made and the company uses that $0.20 adapter when I bet the problem rate is 1 or 2%.

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The reason why we don't automatically include the XLR cable is because we couldn't see any difference when performing an A.B. comparison. If we were recording music, plugging the transmitter into a mixing board or locating the Airline 77 base more than 50 feet away from the soundcard or we knew that we were in an extremely high interference zone, we would recommend the XLR cable. HOWEVER, there is something to be said about the $3 ¼ inch to 3.5 mm adapter. Any time you introduce an adapter or additional cable, you're also introducing 1 more thing that can go wrong. This is 1 of the reasons why we stopped using the Radio Shack gold plated adapters years ago. Around 15% of the Radio Shack adapters were defective but we have experience far less failures since replacing the original adapters .

In other words we generally agree with both Phil and Lindsay but because so many people have requested an XLR cable, we have included it as an add-on option.


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I hope I am not mistaking, I thought the unbalanced cable is what I should use. My info came from what the 

experts said here : http://www.knowbrainer.com/pubforum/index.cfm?page=viewForumTopic&topicId=12947&pageNo=1#8989EF7C-912A-6434-73C2748B69BDAE3Athread68472

I just followed what they said as I know next to nothing about cables.

I couldn't buy from a UK reseller, as both Graham and pcbyvoice didn't have the Samson q7 I wanted 



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supee

I am not surprised you're confused with all the different conflicting information. ant with the USB sound pods we are using……

also from my point of view here in the UK thanks for bringing the confusion on the issue to the fore, it's the sort of thing we should know and be more clear on.  Shortly I will be :-)

See below… 

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I have talked to Samson and Shure this morning and the advice is, without question, that with PC sound cards (other than very high-end recording studio) you should use the unbalanced jack output from the Samson/Shure receiver at least up to cable lengths of 5 m.

Forgetting about any interference for the moment, the reason for this is that the level of the output signal is higher with the unbalanced jack output than with the balanced XLR output. Consequently if you use the XLR output with a balanced cable or with an XLR unbalanced cable you are giving the sound card on the PC a much lower level signal to deal with. With professional recording equipment this lower level signal is not a problem as the preamp will boost it accordingly, with most PC sound cards the preamp is not really up to dealing with such a low level signal. It will work but would be happier dealing with a higher level signal from the unbalanced jack output. The only time this changes is when you are using very long cable lengths and then the advice was to try the different options to see which was best.

Now I would also like to suggest in your case supee that one possible reason you are failing the audio setup wizard is exactly because of this, that is your giving your PC sound card a much lower level signal to deal with by using the unbalanced XLR cable. I have never had a Samson airline fail the audio setup wizard using the normal jack output cables. To that end I would suggest trying the normal unbalanced jack output cable to see if it makes any difference when running the audio setup wizard.

Lindsay


incidentally for everyone using unbalanced XLR cables, that's fine, you can take or leave the advice as you please.  Meanwhile we will stick with using unbalanced jack cables as KnowBrainer do.

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Supee,

Lindsay hit the nail on the head. However, just to add a smidgen to what Lindsay says, the difference between balanced and unbalanced XLR cables is in the wiring. While there's no need to go into details on how each is wired, it is sufficient, as Lindsey points out, to note that balanced XLR cables will result in the lower output gain.

That being said, when using the Samson Airline 77 Wireless Microphone, you can always adjust the volume (output gain) by setting the volume higher on the base unit. The older Samson Airline 77 Wireless Microphone (i.e., before the FCC regulations were applied) had a higher output gain, which simply meant that it was adequate for most internal soundcards, but particularly for USB SoundPods like the Andrea PureAudio USB-SA or the Buddy USB 6G. The newer Andrea PureAudio USB-SA and the Andrea half duplex both outside or output gain levels. The newer Samson Airline 77 Wireless Microphones have a lower output gain, which simply means that when using the older Andrea PureAudio USB-SA indoor the Buddy USB 6G, the volume level on the base unit has to be adjusted higher.

However, I have both Samson Airline 77 Wireless Microphones (older and newer) and I find that, with the exception of the new Andrea PureAudio USB-SA or the Andrea half duplex USB SoundPods, I have to adjust the volume level on the base unit significantly higher than on the original (pre-FCC) Samson Airline 77 Wireless Microphone.

Regardless, I have both the 5 foot an the 15 foot unbalanced XLR cables and they work just fine with the Samson Airline 77 Wireless Microphone as long as the base unit volume is set properly when using the older ndrea PureAudio USB-SA or the Buddy USB 6G USB SoundPods or any internal PC soundcard.

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Thanks Lindsay for doing the research and posting so quickly, but I am still confused! 

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Consequently if you use the XLR output with a balanced cable or with an XLR unbalanced cable you are giving the sound card on the PC a much lower level signal to deal with.

I don't understand the first part of the statement "Consequently if you use the XLR output with a balanced cable or with an XLR unbalanced cable" . I interpret this to mean - the output will be low with either cable - balanced or unbalanced. If so, what do I do? Remember I am using a Samson Q7, not Airline 77

The Samson Q7 can only be connected to an XLR male. The end of that cable needs to be a 3.5mm to connect to the Buddy USB 6G sound pod. I bought the Hosa XVM-105 as advised by knowbrainer(Lunis) in the other thread, but still unable to pass the audio setup wizard even though speech appears clear to me. What are my doing wrong?

Chuck mentioned having to adjust the base volume with the Airline 77, but I can't do this with Samson Q7 mic 



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supee

your understanding of what I said in the last post was pretty much correct, my understanding of what you had said previously wasn't so good so what you do is talk to someone who doesn't keep referring to the situation as if you were using an airline 77, my apologies.  With the Q7 the answer was try both cables (balanced and unbalanced) to see if there is any discernible difference.  I will happily send you a balanced one to try as I would be interested to see if there was any difference.  Probably not so what you have may be the best you will get with the Q7.  What soundcard are you using?

Just one thing however, the XLR plug that you plug into the Samson should be a female and not male?
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Lindsay, my Samson Q7 easily passed the microphone check using a Buddy 6G pod and a UNBALANCED XLR (female) to 3.5 mm cable. My balanced XLR to 3.5 mm cable is in use where I would need help to remove it.

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Thanks Phil, do you have an airline 77 as well then?  I don't know why but earlier in this thread I was going by the Q7 being just another headset or microphone going via the Samson radio receiver (the same one as the airline 77 uses) but I see it's directly wired with the XLR going straight into the microphone.

How do you use the Q7, e.g. how far away is it from your mouth for dictation and how do you mount it?  Just interested on what it was like as we don't currently supply them.

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yes I have a Airline77 and that is what I am using to dictate this reply. since I dictate for many hours a day as well as control my computer by voice I prefer to wear my microphone.

There are three of us at our company that use Dragon and we have accumulated a bunch of microphones and sound pods over the years. We have pretty much standardized on the airline 77 for the office and the Audio Technica Pro for on the road. We all use theBoom headsets for telephone.

I had purchased the Q7 sometime ago so I could mount it on my patio desk as I did not want to risk my Sennheiser MD431 II outdoors. I was not really happy with the Q7 microphone and really cannot recommend it. By coincidence, over the weekend, I was cleaning my storage cabinet that has all my audio paraphernalia and I saw the Q7. Therefore, it is easy for me to get my hands on the microphone and a spare unbalanced XLR to 3.5 mm cable.

I have an adjustable microphone boom arm in my bedroom, office and patio and move the Sennheiser MD431 II from bedroom to the patio. I have pinched nerves in my back, arms and hands so I use floating monitor/computer arms and full support adjustable reclining chairs. I have dedicated cabling and equipment at each location. Recently I been using the AT Pro in my bedroom lying down and it is more convenient than using the Sennheiser MD431 II on a boom since I need to focus on getting the pillow just right for my neck so keeping the right microphone position is too distracting.

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We offer the previously mentioned Hosa XLR cable as an option for the Q7 along with various USB soundcard choices. To our knowledge, the combination seems to work well but the Q7 has fallen out of favor because of it’s unwieldy design. More standardized TableMikes like the SpeechWare 3-in-1 and Buddy Desktop DSP USB microphones have taken over 99% of our market.

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I agree with you that the Samson Q7 is not really ideal for dictation for long periods as it is a very heavy microphone to holding your hand and definitely look bogus and big compared to other desktop microphone designed for speech recognition. However, it is if a relatively cheap microphone, and I bought it to usepending the time I can't decide on which desktop microphone to buy as I am tired of wearing a headset microphone. How will you compare the noise cancelling capability of the Samson Q7 with the noise cancelling capability of the speech were three in one? And also the buddy desktop DSP.

 

The microphone was eventually able to pass the audio setup wizard when I inserted a booster to be buddy USB 6G audio pod. When I dictate with this microphone, it is about 6 inches from my mouth.



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The SpeechWare 3-in-1 is very good in terms of noise cancellation particularly considering it's a desktop microphone.  It also has the advantage that you can dictate into it quite comfortably from several feet away which I would not recommend with the Buddy Gooseneck.  There will also be a telescopic boom available for the SpeechWare around the middle of next month, however with the existing microphone boom and the fact you can dictate from 2 feet away it is suitable for most environments.  You also have a 30 day return if you're not happy with the microphone:

http://www.pcbyvoice.com/shop/speechware-3-in-1-tablemike/

just one word of warning, we only have two remaining and you won't find them anywhere else in the UK at the moment.  Next batch arrive middle to end of April.

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Without considering any other factor, except accuracy in a slightly noisy environment(TV on at low volume or people talking nearby at low volume, not directly at the mic), how is it compared to Seinhesser ME3? While I am satisfied with Seinhesser ME3's performance, I want to do without wearing any headset. I am just worried I may not be satisfied with the Speechware 3 in 1's overall accuracy in this environment. I have a non-standard accent, and I generally dont get as good an accuracy as most people here.

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supee

I work in a very similar environment, background noise from music, TV occasionally, two young kids, dogs etc and for a desktop microphone second-generation SpeechWare 3-in-1 does an amazing job in terms of noise cancellation.  In terms of accuracy you will find people claiming it to be the best thing ever although at a distance of several feet I would put it slightly behind something like the Sennheiser ME-3N (however I know many others would put it ahead of the Sennheiser even at 2 feet), I guess it depends on your style of dictation).  However if you consider that the Sennheiser is a couple of inches from the corner of your mouth and the SpeechWare 3-in-1 is several feet away then it is no mean achievement.

If you do purchase and it does not suit then you can return in perfect condition with packaging etc within the first 30 days although we would expect it returned sooner if it just didn't fit.  This time next week we will not have any left but we will have more later in April if you want to take your time and think about it.
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I probably will have to buy the SpeechWare 3-in-1 at some point; but its price does not fit my budget at the moment. If I am able to sell my Sennheiser Bluetooth BW 900, then I might have some budget for the SpeechWare three in one. it will be great if you can let me have the demo model for a few days sometimes in late March/early April. I will contact you again once I am ready.

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Yes just drop me an e-mail via the forum or the website.

Incidentally going back to the Samson Airline 77 (even though you were talking about a Q7 :-), I just received some balanced XLR cables (6 m) and have just tried them with the Shure radio receiver to Buddy USB 6G as well as the Samson Airline 77 to the Buddy USB 6G, and they work fine.

I have turned the level up on the receiver slightly higher because of the lower level signal but the clarity of the recording is first-class.  So if you go XLR I would go balanced with the Airline 77.  I don't have a Q7 to try.

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This is just to report back about using The Samson Q7 microphone with a balanced XLR cable, just to help other users who may be thinking of using the microphone. This cable was connected to a buddy USB 6G sound pod. There was no sound using this combination with the balanced XLR cable. This test should therefore clarify the situation for people who want to use this microphone. It seems an unbalanced XLR cable is needed. When I connected this microphone to an unbalanced XLR cable and then to the buddy USB 6G pod, the setup did not pass the audio setup wizard. However, when I included a microphone adapter, the audio setup wizard was passed in flying colours, if I may use that word. It looks like the sound output from the Samson Q7 microphone is low, hence the need for the microphone booster adapter. This also seems to have improved the noise floor tremendously, resulting in clearer signal and better accuracy. The Samson Q7 microphone is a heavy microphone, and is better used with a microphone stand. I generally dictated with it about 4 inches or less from my mouth.

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supee,

What adapter are you using. When I test with the Samson Q7, I use the Andrea P-100 Converter plug, which accomplishes the same thing.

Just curious.

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Its the Andrea P-100 Converter plug



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The problem with buying a music-type cable is they are not generally intended for use with speech recognition.  As a result, these types of cables are not optimal, which results in less than the best performance that can be obtained.  Having experimented with a number of cables for my Sennnheiser MD 431 II, I would recommend that you follow the advise given by Lunis, and others previously, and purchase the speciality cable on his site or elsewhere.  If you cannot get his cable due to duty considerations, I believe the manufacturer is Hosa (Hosa XVM 115), which should be available in the UK.  If you want the best you could always have a cable made.  I currently have have a Mogami 2582 balanced cable with Neutrik gold XLR (NC3FXX-B) and a Rean 3.5 plug (NYS231-BG), which performs much better than the Hosa.

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supee, having used the SpeechWare 3-in-1 for over a year, I cannot imagine using any other desktop microphone for speech recognition.

You may find these products useful for your new microphone: Stand & microphone clip.



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