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Topic Title: Cannot complete digital profile creation
Topic Summary: error message when adapt step is reached
Created On: 03/20/2011 01:30 AM
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 Cannot complete digital profile creation   - gabor5454 - 03/20/2011 01:30 AM  
 Cannot complete digital profile creation   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/20/2011 03:01 PM  
 Cannot complete digital profile creation   - gabor5454 - 03/21/2011 01:32 AM  
 Cannot complete digital profile creation   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/21/2011 02:17 PM  
 Cannot complete digital profile creation   - transcribe - 04/04/2011 10:58 AM  
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 03/20/2011 01:30 AM
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gabor5454
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I am trying to set up a digital recorder profile in Dragon naturally speaking 11 premium using the Sony IC 712 recorder. I get through the step of recording the four-minute reading text, Dragon analyzes the file and says that the quality passes, however when I click the button to adapt I see the message below:

"This user profile has not been sufficiently prepared for use with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please rerecord the training text and run general training for this user, being certain to speak clearly while avoiding any excessive background noise during recording."

I tried this several times in multiple settings and get the same result – is this a symptom of the sound quality of the file being inadequate, even though Dragon passed it on the first screen, or is there some other issue I should know about to get past this?

I realize that the Sony is not the best dictation recorder available (five dragons indeed!) But I'm reluctant to invest in a higher-end recorder unless I know that I can get Dragon working correctly for the digital profile
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Thanks in advance for any help.

RG

p.s. do my main dictation with a Samson wireless that I bought through KnowBrainer and I must admit I'm spoiled - the accuracy of the results is phenomenal!!

 03/20/2011 03:01 PM
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Lunis Orcutt
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                                Welcome to the KnowBrainer Forums

We concur that the Sony IC 712 recorder probably doesn't deserve more than a 3 Dragon rating but Nuance tends to overrate companies they are involved with or OEM recorders that come packaged with NaturallySpeaking. Our preference  is to utilize digital recorders that feature the Olympus DS2 algorithms such as the Olympus DS-5000 or the consumer grade Olympus DS-2400 which, for many end users, doesn't require creating a specialized digital recorder profile. We use our DS-5000 right over the top of our microphone user profile which is not only considerably easier but doesn't require moving vocabulary back and forth between 2 users. Maintaining more than 1 user profile can be a bit of a pain.

However, we suspect that your hurdle is the Sony proprietary recording format. Although NaturallySpeaking can natively transcribe Sony recordings, it can only transcribe a .wav file during the training process. Try converting your existing recording into a .wav file and see how that works. You might even try transcribing recordings over your standard microphone profile but we suspect you won't have the best results. Our
Digital Recorder Guide additionally includes a KnowBrainer step-by-step on how to create a digital recorder user profile.


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 03/21/2011 01:32 AM
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gabor5454
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Thanks for the quick answer. Unfortunately using a wave file does not work – I still get the same error. As a check to see whether sound quality was the problem I also tried using my Samson Airline mic to record a wave file, and I still had the same problem.

I am wondering if a complete uninstallation and clean reinstall of Dragon to my system might be helpful – in case some setting or file  has gotten corrupted perhaps starting from scratch would work.

In addition I'm encouraged by your comment that with the Olympus recorders you can use your normal profile without setting up a specific user profile – I find that my Samson gets truly fabulous accuracy, and though I wouldn't expect a digital recorder (even a high-end one) to do quite this well - if it comes close I suspect I would find that satisfactory.

I be interested in your thoughts on the uninstall/reinstall idea, and any other ideas you might have. As before, many thanks in advance for your help

RG. PS I am quite sure that the Sony is the last voice recognition product I will buy without checking knowbrainer first (my mistake, lesson learned)

 03/21/2011 02:17 PM
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Lunis Orcutt
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We very much doubt that uninstalling/reinstalling will have any effect on this problem.

When creating your recorder profile, did you remember to select Digital Files on Disk as outlined in step # 7 in our previous hyperlinked guide? Also note that you need to convert your digital recording into the proper .wav format which is 22.05 kHz 16-bit mono.


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Hi all,

I am new here. Found it very interesting forum for transcribing softwares and their usages.



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