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Topic Title: Searching sound files
Topic Summary: Any ways to index and search sound files?
Created On: 10/12/2010 02:41 PM
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 Searching sound files   - gcarson - 10/12/2010 02:41 PM  
 Searching sound files   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/12/2010 10:55 PM  
 Searching sound files   - gcarson - 10/13/2010 09:44 AM  
 Searching sound files   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/14/2010 12:24 PM  
 Searching sound files   - DrJ - 10/31/2011 06:20 PM  
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 10/12/2010 02:41 PM
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gcarson
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Hello. I've been using my Olympus DS5000 for a while now and have accumulated a large number of sound files in DSS Pro. I always add notes to each file to describe what the recording's about, but I'd like to be able to do a search for specific strings across all the files. These files are anywhere from 15 min to an hour long on average and it would just take too long to play the whole file back again, especially since many of the files are pretty old and I usually can't remember which file contains the brilliant snippet of dictation I'm trying to find. 

I guess what I'm looking for is some way to create a dictation library or database I can use to search the sound files. Microsoft OneNote 2007 has the ability to do this (I'm not sure what the recording format is with OneNote--probably wav, I'm guessing). They call it AudioSearch. The indexing in OneNote is supposed to be a pretty time-consuming process and they recommend keeping OneNote running all night to allow the indexing to take place. Supposedly, once the sound files have been indexed, you can search them for specific spoken words and phrases, etc. I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know how well it works.

I'm not even sure what I'm looking for is even possible. Workarounds include opening the sound file in the DSS player and skipping around in the file, hoping I'll find what I'm looking for, but that seems kind of crude. Another option would be to transcribe every recording and save them as Word docs or whatever and index those, maybe with Windows search, but I've been trying to get away from maintaining all these hardcopy files. It was one of the main reasons I started using the recorder in the first place. It's also possible that I could convert the DSS files to wav files and let OneNote index them. I'll have to try that.

Anyway, does anybody know of any applications that have this capability? Thanks in advance... 



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 10/12/2010 10:55 PM
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Lunis Orcutt
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It sounds like what you're looking for is data mining but that ability is not available in DNS or any digital recorder that we know of.

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 10/13/2010 09:44 AM
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gcarson
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I want to be able to search sound files for words and phrases. I guess that's data-mining.

I know DNS and voice recorders don't have this capability. I was hoping you could do it in DSS Player Pro, but you can't.

Microsoft OneNote has an AudioSearch function that comes pretty close. Once the audio file is indexed, you can search it for particular phrases like any other file (you can also search video, but I haven't tried that yet). AudioSearch, for example, will tell you that a specific phrase occurred at six minutes into a recording and lasted for three seconds.

I was just wondering if there were other applications for managing and searching dictated sound files. I can't be the only one who would find this really useful.



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 10/14/2010 12:24 PM
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Chuck probably has more information on data mining but the Lernout & Hauspie company also felt this was important and did some work in this area which we believe was eventually abandoned for lack of potential profit but they were probably just a bit ahead of their time. Lernout & Hauspie (L & H) took over ownership of NaturallySpeaking from DragonSystems which was eventually purchased by ScanSoft and Nuance.

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Has any progress been made on data mining problem raised in these posts?

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