I just bought nuance PDF converter professional six.  They assured me and still do assure me that it is fully compatible with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. However, I have not been able to get it to work. When I talked to nuance, they said what I have to do is to uninstall Dragon NaturallySpeaking and the converter program and then reinstall both programs with the converter program being installed first in order to get it to work. Is this accurate? Something to do with the plug-in not otherwise being available unless you do it this way.

 

Thanks!

 

Bill Goren

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William D. Goren, DNS 11 PRO (home and office), Windows Vista (home), Windows XP Office

I did what they said. It took me forever (uninstalling and reinstalling). When I did that, I do see the PDF professional converter plug-in. However, it still doesn't work well with Dragon NaturallySpeaking. I suppose I'm going to have to call Nuance again. Any thoughts? Also, how do I know if I have Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10.1 and not just ten in my system now that I have done a reinstall?

 

Bill

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William D. Goren, DNS 11 PRO (home and office), Windows Vista (home), Windows XP Office

As with nearly any application, all you have to do is click About NaturallySpeaking under the Help menu.

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Bill,

What exactly did Nuance say as regards DNS and PDF Converter Professional 6 compatibility?  The reason that I ask is that I'm not sure that you were asking the right questions and I'm not sure that Nuance was giving you the right answers.

As regards compatibility, there are certain limitations on such with regard to PDF Converter Professional 6 and DNS 10.1.

1.  Forms and form fields are not Select-and-Say enabled.  You can dictate into any text window without any problem and you can even correct text under certain conditions.  Nevertheless, the Select-and-Say button will always be grayed out.

2.  You can access menus and submenus by voice, but PDF Converter Professional 6 does not support Active Accessibility.  Therefore, saying "File" will not pull down the File menu.  You will have to say "press Alt File" and then you will have to use the move up and move down commands to access submenus.

The bottom line is that compatibility is limited.  If you're looking for the ability to work with the same type of compatibility and PDF Converter Professional 6 as you have in Microsoft Word, it ain't gonna happen.

Probably the better approach would be to tell us what you expect are expected as far as compatibility is concerned.  Then I could be more specific in terms of whether or not what you expected is possible, or what you wanted as far as compatibility is concerned is possible.

I think Nuance is misleading you or your not being clear in terms of what your expectations are.  Nevertheless, since I use PDF Converter Professional 6 and have been using it since it was originally released along with DNS 10.1 Medical, Legal, and Professional, I can probably give you a better idea of whether or not what you want or expect it is compatible and/or supported.

Chuck Runquist
Technical Project Manager
VoiceTeach LLC

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Is there any point of taking Nuance up on its offer of PDF converter professional 7 for $80, if one already has Adobe Acrobat professional 9.3 ( except for the fact that AAP is limited to installation on two machines)?

 I do find AAP somewhat difficult to work with.  Are there any things PDFCP 7can do that AAP cannot, or cannot do easily?

There is somewhat of a risk because installing other Nuance programs tends to break installations of DNS (e.g., saying that DNS it is not registered).

I would say no if you are using voice dictation technology. The makers of DNS have assured me that the upgrade is not compatible with voice dictation technology. That said, their marketing materials say DNS 11 is compatible with Adobe Acrobat. I was at a seminar today where a person who knows these things also mentioned Adobe Acrobat professional with approval. Thus,
Nuance is in a rather funny position of advocating a competitor's product. If I hadn't had the pdf converter 6 so long, I would return it.

 

Bill Goren

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William D. Goren, DNS 11 PRO (home and office), Windows Vista (home), Windows XP Office

I bought this program as a replacement for Adobe Acrobat so that I could create PDFs from within Word, retaining the formatting and bookmarked links, and so that I could create high-resolution PDFs for digital printing. The program was terrible! It never retained the proper formatting and swapped out fonts in the PDF versions, even when I had them install the system! Most of the bold formatting was totally gone. When I contacted nuance to ask them about this, their solution was to manually go into the PDF and at a stroke to all the text that was bolded. What a ridiculous response! I ended up getting a refund for the program.


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What I have never understood is the fact that Nuance have not made their other products compatible with DNS and vice versa

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These posts clear up a lot of things. Thanks! The biggest problem I am having is that I can't get it to print out easily. I have to say mouse right-click, then print, then okay. With Adobe Acrobat, all I had to say was print one or print sometimes.  Is there a shortcut?

 

Bill

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William D. Goren, DNS 11 PRO (home and office), Windows Vista (home), Windows XP Office

Bill,

The major complaint that most users have with regard to some of the Nuance imaging products, specifically PDF Converter Professional 6, is that they do not support Active Accessibility.  That is, saying menus or submenus by voice doesn't work.  Basically, the imaging division does not communicate very well with the speech recognition division and vice versa.  What is accessible in Adobe Acrobat is not accessible and PDF Converter Professional 6.  An unfortunate reality and one which I consider to be ludicrous given that making PDF Converter Professional 6 compatible with MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility) is not terribly difficult, and failing to do so is poor marketing and product management period.

However, you can access virtually all of the functions in PDF Converter Professional 6 using the hotkey keystrokes by voice and/or by script.

For example, all of the menus are accessible by voice by using the command Alt + the underscored letter for each menu.  Takes a little bit of digging and searching to figure out what all of the hotkeys are, but they are voice accessible.

For example, you call up the print dialog in PDF Converter Professional 6 by simply saying "press Ctrl + p".

Another part of the unfortunate lack of foresight is the fact that all of the dialogue boxes (e.g., the print dialog box) do support MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility) and you can, check checkboxes, drop lists, and generally Say-What-You-See.

Go figure!!!

Hope this helps.

Chuck Runquist
Technical Project Manager
VoiceTeach LLC

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We are not using any Nuance PDF products but you might try adding the following command to KnowBrainer. You can name it anything that doesn't already exist, like Print PDF:

SendSystemKeys "{Ctrl+p}"
Wait 500
SendSystemKeys "{Enter}"

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Lunis,

I do use all of the Nuance imaging products.  Your suggested solution is very viable and I have no problems with it with only one exception.

If you have multiple printers and/or printer drivers (such as Nuance's PDF create PDF printer driver or Adobe's PDF printer driver) you don't want to start the printing process until you've made sure that you selected the proper printer or printer driver.  Otherwise, it's like doing Cliff diving blindfolded.  Since all of the Nuance imaging products are fully Say-What-You-See enabled within their dialogs, there is no need to commence the printing process automatically.  It's more effective just to pull up the print dialog and make sure that you have the correct settings before you go off the deep end and print a document.

Chuck Runquist
Technical Project Manager
VoiceTeach LLC

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What is the difference between PDF converter professional and omnipage 17 in terms of what they do? All I want to do is to create PDF documents and be able to read and print them using voice dictation technology. PDF converter, as mentioned in this thread, is not compatible with voice dictation technology unless you're an expert. Interestingly enough, I recently received an e-mail from DNS saying that you can now use voice with Adobe Acrobat with another product of theirs.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Bill Goren

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William D. Goren, DNS 11 PRO (home and office), Windows Vista (home), Windows XP Office

If you're using Office 2007, you can download a free PDF converter utility that will convert any Excel or Word document into a PDF. We're not certain if this helps you with your situation but thought you might be able to use the information. We frequently create PDF files in Excel and Microsoft Word to produce quotes but we don't have to work with the files after they are made. They simply become e-mail attachments or online manuals.

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I appreciated what Chuck said; I am not sure I understood it completely. I did try this command and I get the message, "syntax error, line 2"

Are you referring to the previous command we created for your copy of KnowBrainer in green text? It worked in our system and is very similar to your existing KnowBrainer Print Document command.

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I appreciated what Chuck said; I am not sure I understood it completely. I did try this command and I get the message, "syntax error, line 2"

 

Bill

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