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Topic Title: Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?
Topic Summary: It is better to turn Dragon off than to send it to sleep...
Created On: 04/01/2020 04:02 PM
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 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 04/01/2020 04:02 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Alan Cantor - 04/01/2020 04:34 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Lunis Orcutt - 04/01/2020 05:13 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - PG LTU - 04/01/2020 06:19 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 04/02/2020 10:26 AM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Alan Cantor - 04/02/2020 11:05 AM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 04/03/2020 08:37 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - PG LTU - 04/02/2020 11:12 AM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 04/09/2020 11:02 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 05/20/2020 08:47 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 06/19/2020 05:23 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Lunis Orcutt - 06/19/2020 11:05 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 06/20/2020 06:55 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - jmcvay - 06/20/2020 03:29 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 06/20/2020 08:06 PM  
 Has anyone written a timeout command to turn the Dragon mic off?   - Ag - 06/20/2020 08:13 PM  
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Alan Cantor
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It's far from ideal if you must press the Fn key to access a frequently-accessed hotkey. I would go so far as to say that pressing and/or holding any kind of modifier key (Fn, Shift, Ctrl, Alt, or Win) is not the best option for Dragon hotkeys.

Compact keyboards usually have more keys accessed by pressing and holding "Fn" -- so you may need a creative solution.

If the Function keys are mapped to media keys on your computer (e.g., press F5 to increase speaker volume), consider which set of keys you need more: the media keys or the function keys. For me, function keys are much more valuable than media keys, so I permanently disabled them via the Bios. But pne of my clients wanted the media keys, so we had far fewer options for Dragon hotkeys.

In recent months I have mapped these 14 unmodified keys, via Dragon, to toggle the microphone. All seem to work:

All 12 function keys.
Insert key
Pause key

NumLock and ScrollLock can be assigned, but I'd be wary of using them. I would advise against using Home, End, Page Up, Page Down, and the four arrow keys, as there may be conflicts with built-in Dragon scripts that send these keys.

Since you are using AutoHotkey, review your scripts for key conflicts with Dragon. It might make sense to shut down AutoHotkey before assigning Dragon hotkeys, reenable AutoHotkey, and then test to discover the conflicts. Then change the AutoHotkey assignments.

For one client, we really did run out of keys, so I used an X-Keys (a programmable keypad). We were forced to use a weird key combination in Dragon that involved two modifier keys at once. With the X-Keys, my client only had to press a single key to activiate/deactivate the microphone instead of three.
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Originally posted by: Alan Cantor  For one client, we really did run out of keys, so I used an X-Keys (a programmable keypad). We were forced to use a weird key combination in Dragon that involved two modifier keys at once. With the X-Keys, my client only had to press a single key to activiate/deactivate the microphone instead of three.

Yeah, I have 2 X-key strips, one with four keys and one with 16 keys.   I was going down the path of lots of single key bindings (in AutoHotKey) to reduce typing before I remembered Dragon.

 

I'll probably do this, but nevertheless I'd still like to have a timeout. I suspect I will still forget to turn the microphone off, even if it is a single key.  Especially since I am often quite far away from my keyboard which is one of the joys of using Dragon.

 

By the way, I would thought that muting my microphone locally, on the headset, would be almost equivalent to microphone off from Dragon's point of view.  But a few experiments seem to show the following:

 

if I microphone off and have a phone conversation I can return to Dragon and resume pretty reliably,

 

If I send Dragon to sleep and do the same thing, I can much less reliably resume Dragon. This is as would be expected given the explanations you experts have provided.

 

Finally, if I use the mute button on the headset itself, Dragon has often misbehaved. It seems as if Dragon is doing something, if the microphone is on and Dragon is listening, even though the dictation source is locally disabled.

 

(I have noticed similar problems if I hang the headset up on its charging stand, neither muting nor turning Dragon's mike off. But I am less confident about those, because it's entirely possible that I haven't hung it on the stand properly, so it might still be listening.)

 

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BTW: elsewhere I have asked about switching my headset between Dragon and a conferencing system like Zoom. When I tried this in the past I would tell Dragon to go to sleep while switching to Zoom... And now I understand why that would cause pretty bad problems. Next time I might try turning the Dragon microphone off my switch to zoom.  

 

This might be enough to make me enable SpeechStart+'s "MICROPHONE On" command: turn Dragon's microphone off, talk to Zoom, mute zoom and turn Dragon's microphone back on.

 

I assume that SpeechStart+ is also listening for the "MICROPHONE On" command. Why doesn't it have the same problems that Dragon's "Goto Sleep" mode command has?  Or does it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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