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Topic Title: smart apostrophe
Topic Summary: how to get the curly apostrophe, rather than the vertical one
Created On: 10/02/2007 11:53 AM
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 smart apostrophe   - RCS - 10/02/2007 11:53 AM  
 smart apostrophe   - Tom Perry - 10/02/2007 11:56 AM  
 smart apostrophe   - RCS - 10/02/2007 01:43 PM  
 smart apostrophe   - Tom Perry - 10/02/2007 01:54 PM  
 smart apostrophe   - Graham - 10/02/2007 06:38 PM  
 smart apostrophe   - Lunis Orcutt - 10/02/2007 10:30 PM  
 smart apostrophe   - RCS - 10/22/2007 10:25 AM  
 smart apostrophe   - Tom Perry - 10/22/2007 10:32 AM  
 smart apostrophe   - Matt Chambers - 10/22/2007 12:52 PM  
 smart apostrophe   - Russell - 10/22/2007 01:08 PM  
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RCS
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How do I get the apostrophe that looks curly rather than the one that looks straight.  (It looks like the smart quote, but only one of them.)

Thanks.

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 10/02/2007 11:56 AM
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Tom Perry
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Do a search of this forum for one or both of the following:

Smart quotes

Curly quote

The question has been answered numerous times.



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RCS
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Thanks so much for pointing me toward searching the forum.  You are right, there are many entries for smart quotes and curly quotes, also for em dash and en dash, which are also very useful.

I can't find the answer to my original question, so I'll rephrase: Does anyone know the ASCII code for smart apostrophe?  (Seems like 0027 is just for apostrophe, not smart apostrophe.)

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Tom Perry
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I'm not sure there is an ASCII entry.  Rather it is Unicode. Graham Hendry is the resident specialist on that. Until Graham shows up, you might want search on his name and also Unicode.


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The "right single quotation mark" that can be used as a "curly apostrophe is ASCII 0146 - check that it available for the font face that you are using - some don’t include it.

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Lunis Orcutt
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As you can see, “and” are easy to to say  but (right single quote) may not be very practical for normal dictation as you can imagine.

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 10/22/2007 10:25 AM
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RCS
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I appreciate the help you have offered, and I would like to share my experience working with these special punctuation marks:

Creating the curly quotes using codes to get “and” is easy to make work as the forum has indicated.

Creating the smart apostrophe  is much more difficult because sometimes that character is used at the end of the word (plural possessive) and then there is a trailing space such as in classrooms’ windows.  Other times, it precedes the possessive s (singular possessive) and there is no space, as in classroom’s windows.

I did experiment with using a one command for the singular possessive form (’s) and another command for the plural possessive form (s&rsquo  in order to get the spacing correct. In addition to this being a clumsy solution because there are two commands to remember, I found that it didn't work regularly and I was making manual corrections more often than not.

If someone else has found an eloquent way of making this work, I am open to suggestions.  Otherwise, it appears that this functionality unavailable for practical purposes.

I hope these comments are of use to someone. 

 

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If someone else has found an eloquent way of making this work, I am open to suggestions. 

The only thing that I can think is to dictate your document in its entirety using whatever 'quote' DNS uses.  At the end of the document, you could then run a macro to clean things up on a global basis and convert those apostrophes to a smart quote.  It would be a simple Find and Replace type of macro.



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1The other solution would be to dictate everything in Microsoft Word and run a macro in it to fix the apostrophes.

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I use the following "fix apostrophes" Advanced Script in Microsoft Word to change straight apostrophes to curly apostrophes. Bear in mind that this is a "brute force" operation that may convert straight apostrophes that you don't want converted, such as a listing of someone's height, like 6' 4".

-Russ

Sub Main
Word.Application.Activate
Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
Selection.Find.Replacement.ClearFormatting
With Selection.Find
.Text = "'"
.Replacement.Text = "’"
.Forward = True
.Wrap = wdFindContinue
.Format = False
.MatchCase = False
.MatchWholeWord = False
.MatchWildcards = False
.MatchSoundsLike = False
.MatchAllWordForms = False
End With
Selection.Find.Execute Replace:=wdReplaceAll
End Sub

 

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