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Topic Title: Dictating names from a handheld recorder
Topic Summary: How do I dictate unusual/unique names so that Dragon can spell them?
Created On: 04/21/2007 08:24 AM
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 Dictating names from a handheld recorder   - dstultz - 04/21/2007 08:24 AM  
 Dictating names from a handheld recorder   - mmarkoe - 04/21/2007 08:38 AM  
 Dictating names from a handheld recorder   - Lunis Orcutt - 04/21/2007 03:53 PM  
 Dictating names from a handheld recorder   - mmarkoe - 04/21/2007 05:39 PM  
 Dictating names from a handheld recorder   - docflash - 04/07/2008 07:43 PM  
 Dictating names from a handheld recorder   - Lunis Orcutt - 04/08/2008 12:33 AM  
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dstultz
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This may be a basic question - I'm just now starting to use a handheld recorder, and in order to fully utilize it, I will need to dictate unusual names (not just John Smith, but maybe something like Braylon Hezekiah-Jorge [a made up name]). These are names that will be unknown to myself or Dragon prior to dictating them (I can't just add a list of names to Dragon before transcription). How can I do this with a recorder? I have tried using "spell mode on" and "switch to spell moder" commands (which work fine when dictating straight into Dragon), but they don't seem to work on the transcription feature (I just get a literal transcription of the command). Any suggestions?

 DNS Medical 9.1 (just moved to 9.5)

Olympus DS-30 handheld

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 04/21/2007 08:38 AM
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dstultz,

Using Spell Mode is probably the most sure fire way of dictating uncommon common names. Here are the directions straight from the dragon help file:

In Spell Mode Dragon NaturallySpeaking allows you to say any combination of letters. You can also say keystrokes such as space bar or backspace key. Spell Mode is also useful for dictating internet or Web addresses. Say "Start Spell Mode" or "Spell Mode On." "Spell Mode" appears in the status box of the DragonBar.

Braylon

I just spelled that name in spell mode. After giving the last letter I said Cap That to capitalize the name. You can then go back to normal mode by saying, "stop spell mode."

Braylon

I just spelled the previous word by using the international military alphabet. Below my name are the commands for doing so.

Martin

To capitalize a letter say "Cap" before the letter.

To
Spell
Say
0zero or oh or numeral zero
1one or numeral one
2two or numeral two
3three or numeral three
4four or numeral four
5five or numeral five
6six or numeral six
7seven or numeral seven
8eight or numeral eight
9nine or numeral nine
aa or letter a or alpha or letter alpha
bb or letter b or bravo or letter bravo
cc or letter c or charlie or letter charlie
dd or letter d or delta or letter delta
ee or letter e or echo or letter echo
ff or letter f or foxtrot or letter foxtrot
gg or letter g or golf or letter golf
hh or letter h or hotel or letter hotel
ii or letter i or india or letter india
jj or letter j or juliet or letter juliet
kk or letter k or kilo or letter kilo
ll or letter l or lima or letter lima
mm or letter m or mike or letter mike
nn or letter n or november or letter november
oo or letter o or oscar or letter oscar
pp or letter p or papa or letter papa
qq or letter q or quebec or letter quebec
rr or letter r or romeo or letter romeo
ss or letter s or sierra or letter sierra
tt or letter t or tango or letter tango
uu or letter u or uniform or letter uniform
vv or letter v or victor or letter victor
ww or letter w or whiskey or letter whiskey
xx or letter x or xray or letter xray
yy or letter y or yankee or letter yankee
zz or letter z or zulu or letter zulu
&ampersand or ampersand sign or and sign
*asterisk or star
'single quote or apostrophe
"quotation marks or quote or
double quote or double quotes
open single quote or
begin single quote
close single quote or end single quote
open double quote or begin quote or
open quote or begin double quote
close double quote or close quote or
end quote or end double quote
@at sign or at
\backslash
/forward slash or slash
:colon
,comma
^caret or hat
ellipsis
=equal sign or equals sign or equal or equals
?question mark
;semicolon
 spacebar or space
~centered tilde or tilde
_underscore
-hyphen
-soft hyphen
--dash (enters two hyphens)
em dash
en dash
 unbreakable space or no break space or
nonbreakable space
.All dialects:
period or dot
Other than US/Canada:
full stop or point
!All dialects:
exclamation mark
Other than US/Canada:
exclamation point
(All dialects:
open paren or open parenthesis or
left paren or left parenthesis
Other than US/Canada:
left bracket or open bracket or open brackets
)All dialects:
close paren or close parenthesis or
right paren or right parenthesis
Other than US/Canada:
right bracket or close bracket or close brackets
[US/Canada:
open bracket or left bracket
Other than US/Canada:
open square bracket or left square bracket
]US/Canada:
close bracket or right bracket
Other than US/Canada:
close square bracket or right square bracket
{All dialects:
open brace or left brace
Other than US/Canada:
open curly bracket or left curly bracket
}All dialects:
close brace or right brace
Other than US/Canada:
close curly bracket or right curly bracket
<less than or less than sign
>greater than or greater than sign
left angle bracket or open angle bracket
right angle bracket or close angle bracket
#All dialects:
number or number sign or sharp or sharp sign or
hash or hash mark or hash sign
US/Canada only:
pound or pound sign
%percent sign or percent
per mille or per thousand
+All Dialects:
plus sign or plus
Other than US/Canada:
add sign
|vertical bar or vertical or bar
TMtrademark sign or trademark
©copyright sign or copyright
®registered sign or registered or registered
trademark or registered trademark sign
dagger
double dagger
paragraph sign or paragraph
§section sign or section
$dollar sign or dollar or dollars
¢cent sign or cent or cents
£US/Canada:
pound sterling or sterling sign or sterling or pounds
Other than US/Canada:
pound or pound sign or pound sterling or pounds
¥yen sign or yen
euro sign or euro or euros
ƒguilder sign or guilder
¤general currency sign or general currency
or international currency sign or international currency
´accent acute or acute
`back quote or accent grave or grave
˜accent tilde
¨accent umlaut or umlaut or dieresis
ˆaccent circumflex or circumflex
¸accent cedilla or cedilla
àa accent grave or a grave or
alpha accent grave or alpha grave
áa accent acute or a acute or
alpha accent acute or alpha acute
âa accent circumflex or a circumflex or
alpha accent circumflex or alpha circumflex
ãa accent tilde or a tilde or
alpha accent tilde or alpha tilde
äa accent umlaut or a umlaut or a dieresis or
alpha accent umlaut or alpha umlaut
èe accent grave or e grave or
echo accent grave or echo grave
ée accent acute or e acute or
echo accent acute or echo acute
êe accent circumflex or e circumflex or
echo accent circumflex or echo circumflex
ëe accent umlaut or e umlaut or e dieresis
echo accent umlaut or echo umlaut
ìi accent grave or i grave or
india accent grave or india grave
íi accent acute or i acute or
india accent acute or india acute
îi accent circumflex or i circumflex or
india accent circumflex or india circumflex
ïi accent umlaut or i umlaut or i dieresis or
india accent umlaut or india umlaut
ñn accent tilde or n tilde or
november accent tilde or november tilde
òo accent grave or o grave or
oscar accent grave or oscar grave
óo accent acute or o acute or
oscar accent acute or oscar acute
ôo accent circumflex or o circumflex or
oscar accent circumflex or oscar circumflex
õo accent tilde or o tilde or
oscar accent tilde or oscar tilde
öo accent umlaut or o umlaut or o dieresis or
oscar accent umlaut or oscar umlaut
ùu accent grave or u grave or
uniform accent grave or uniform grave
úu accent acute or u acute or
uniform accent acute or uniform acute
ûu accent circumflex or u circumflex or
uniform accent circumflex or uniform circumflex
üu accent umlaut or u umlaut or u dieresis or
uniform accent umlaut or uniform umlaut
ýy accent acute or y acute or
yankee accent acute or yankee acute
ÿy accent umlaut or y umlaut or y dieresis or
yankee accent umlaut or yankee umlaut
åangstrom or a ring
çc accent cedilla or c cedilla or
charlie accent cedilla or charlie cedilla
¡inverted exclamation mark or
inverted exclamation point
¿inverted question mark
«open angle quotes or begin angle quotes
»close angle quotes or end angle quotes
ßgerman sharp or german sharp s or sharp s
œligature oe or oe diphthong or oe ligature
æligature ae or ae diphthong or ae ligature
ðeth or icelandic eth
þthorn or icelandic thorn
ºmasculine ordinal
ªfeminine ordinal
šs wedge
double comma
¼one quarter or one quarter sign or
quarter sign or quarter
½one half or one half sign or half or half sign
¾three quarters or three quarters sign
×times sign or times or multiply or
multiply sign or multiplication sign
÷divide sign or divide
±plus minus sign or plus minus or
plus or minus sign or plus or minus
¦broken vertical bar
¬not sign or not or logical not sign or logical not
¯macron or macron sign
°degree sign or degree
¹superscript 1
²superscript 2 or square or squared
³superscript 3 or cube or cubed
µgreek mu or micro
øo slash
·centered dot or middle dot or center dot
alternate comma

Note

You can type two consecutive characters by saying "Double" and the character. For example, "Double Z" or "Double Zulu." You cannot, however, say "Double U" because Dragon NaturallySpeaking transcribes it as the letter "W." In this case, say "Double Letter U."



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The default setting on a digital recorder user profile does not permit spelling.  It is strictly dictation with a very small handful of commands such as cap that, new paragraph and punctuation.  However, you can enable full command capability during the transcription process.  Try the following:
 
1.  Begin by left clicking Transcribe Recording under NaturallySpeaking's Sound menu
2.  Click the Advanced button
3.  The default setting is Restricted Commands.  Click All Commands.
4.  Click to the Okay button and browse to the appropriate file you wish to transcribe
   
Note: The reason why NaturallySpeaking's default setting is Restricted Commands is because it's very easy to say a short phrase that NaturallySpeaking may misconstrue as a command.  Example: If you dictate the word File with a short pause before and after the word, NaturallySpeaking will click the File menu and the rest of your dictation will be lost.  Use this setting with caution.


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Lunis,

> The default setting on a digital recorder user profile does not permit spelling. 

In this case a regular user profile could be used and you feed it the .wav file. Directions from the Dragon Professional Help file are:

  1. Refer to your device's documentation for instructions on how to convert a recording into a .wav file (if necessary) and transfer it from your device to your computer and then copy the file you want to transcribe to your computer's hard drive.
  2. Start Dragon NaturallySpeaking.
  3. Open the user adapted for your recorded speech.
  4. From the Sound menu on the DragonBar, click Transcribe recording. (If the Extras toolbar is displayed, you can also click the Transcribe button.)
  5. In the Transcribe a Recording dialog box, specify the location of the file that you transferred to your computer. Either enter the file path in the text box or click the Browse button to locate the file.
  6. Click Transcribe.

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I've tried the techniques mentioned in the previous post (selecting "all commands" before transcribing the .wma file from my olympus WS-110) but even when i clearly say "spell mode on" it doesn't seem to make a difference. i'm using dns 9 medical.

is it necessary to say "letter a, letter b, letter c" or "alpha bravo charlie" while in spell mode?

is there another way to start spell mode?

thanks in advance.



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Try the following:
 
1.    Pause for a couple seconds before saying spell mode on to be certain that NaturallySpeaking interprets the phrase as a command and not part of your dictation.
 
2.    Here are 2 examples of how I can spell my 1st name:
(a)            [Pause] spell mode on [Pause] Cap el-you-n-i-es to produce Lunis spell mode off
(b)            Cap lima-uniform-november-india-siera to produce Lunis
 
The military/emergency (alpha bravo charlie) alphabet is preferable because it doesn't require placing NaturallySpeaking in spell mode or pausing to turn on and off command or spell mode. Additionally, even when you are in spell mode, NaturallySpeaking has a very difficult time discerning B from C from D from E from P… you get the idea. Another advantage of the military alphabet is not having to risk using NaturallySpeaking in full Command Mode because this alphabet is part of your vocabulary.
 
However, the disadvantage is that it's clumsy and can't be spoken quickly. There's nothing faster than saying Cap L-u-n-i-s to produce Lunis because you can rattle it off like a machine gun.
 
Keep in mind that the Olympus WS-110 isn't exactly a gem when it comes to transcribing dictation into NaturallySpeaking and the more you push the envelope, the more difficult it will be. You are undoubtedly experiencing some of that difficulty now. There's a good reason why we don't sell non-specialized dictation recorders. The WS-110 is a consumer quality jack of all trades toy. Professional digital recorders work better because they're not designed to double as 16-bit stereo MP3 players. A professional digital recorder is frequently limited to 12,000 Hz, includes professional amenities like punch in and a slider control. The world's current best digital recorder is the Philips 9600 which uses the newer DS2 (DSS Pro) algorithms which are not available in any other digital recorder.


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