Went to manually turn microphone off to talk with someone, then after talking with that person noted the microphone was still on. Initially I thought that since I had been distracted, that maybe I did not properly turn the microphone off and needed to wait to get past the buffering. I closed my EMR and Notepad and still not able to turn microphone off.  5 minutes later, still unable to turn microphone off manually and had to kill DNS via Task Manager. See below Dragon log. Any ideas what happened???

Thanks.

MDH

16:55:02 Info: turning off microphone immediate
16:55:17 Info: multimedia device ID 0 name <AK5370          >
dd10hook: Possible deadlock: DLL Injection timeout with 1 playbacks, inHook: 1
dd10hook: Possible deadlock: DLL Injection timeout with 1 playbacks, inHook: 1
16:55:22 Warning: Paused Key 22114 not found
16:56:19 Timeout waiting for some client to Resume the server.
16:56:19   Outstanding pause count = 0, JIT count = 5, timeout = 60000
16:56:19 Info: jitpaused name dd10edit key 738 cookie 1031 time 6707845641570752
16:56:19 Info: jitpaused name Global dictation engine sink key 866 cookie 1031 time 8207820020090112
16:56:19 Info: jitpaused name Dragon, vcmd sink, Start App, hWnd 0x0 key 994 cookie 1031 time 6707845641569360
16:56:19 Info: jitpaused name Dragon NaturalText Module key 1666 cookie 1031 time 6707845645214896
16:56:19 Info: jitpaused name dd10edit key 26146 cookie 1031 time 6707845669742080
16:56:19 LOG (Perf): DgnSAPI paused -> BeginUtt = 60253 msec
16:56:19 ERROR (EngSink): Dragon is having trouble with the application or module 'dd10edit'. Please close the application and try again.
16:56:19 ERROR (EngSink): Dragon is having trouble with the application or module 'Global dictation engine sink'. Please close the application and try again.
16:56:19 ERROR (EngSink): Dragon is having trouble with the application or module 'Dragon, vcmd sink, Start App, hWnd 0x0'. Please close the application and try again.
16:56:19 ERROR (EngSink): Dragon is having trouble with the application or module 'Dragon NaturalText Module'. Please close the application and try again.
16:56:19 ERROR (EngSink): Dragon is having trouble with the application or module 'dd10edit'. Please close the application and try again.
16:56:44 Final Termination of temporary instance
16:57:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
16:57:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x04b1d028 <StartApp-enx>
16:58:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
16:58:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x06435680 <>
16:58:30 Timeout waiting for PhraseFinish notifications to be processed
16:58:30 Warning: grammar 0x064905c8 <'ENX_dragonbar 7'> failed to return from phaseFinish
16:58:30 Warning: jit paused flag already set for dd10edit
16:58:30 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Global dictation engine sink
16:58:30 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Dragon, vcmd sink, Start App, hWnd 0x0
16:58:30 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Dragon NaturalText Module
16:58:30 Warning: jit paused flag already set for dd10edit
16:59:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
16:59:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x064905c8 <'ENX_dragonbar 7'>
16:59:31 Timeout waiting for some client to Resume the server.
16:59:31   Outstanding pause count = 0, JIT count = 3, timeout = 60000
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name dd10edit key 738 cookie 1031 time 6707845641570752
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name Global dictation engine sink key 866 cookie 1031 time 8207820020090112
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name Dragon, vcmd sink, Start App, hWnd 0x0 key 994 cookie 1031 time 6707845641569360
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name natspeak, SDK engine sink key 1122 cookie 1032 time 7996060952736568
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name natspeak, SDK engine sink key 1410 cookie 1032 time 7996060954389896
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name Dragon NaturalText Module key 1666 cookie 1031 time 6707845645214896
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name DgnMyCmds, vcmd sink, MyCmds: MARK HAIMES MAY 21: MyCommands (Global) [0], hWnd 0x0 key 2338 cookie 1032 time 6707845645209304
16:59:31 Info: jitpaused name dd10edit key 26146 cookie 1031 time 6707845669742080
16:59:31 Warning: Grammar filter failed on 0x06420C60 <'ENX_presskey 2'>
16:59:31 Error: Overflow Error detected at end of recog
16:59:36 Final Termination of temporary instance
17:00:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
17:00:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x06420c60 <'ENX_presskey 2'>
17:01:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
17:01:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x06378928 <'enx_global 23'>
17:01:42 Timeout waiting for PhraseFinish notifications to be processed
17:01:42 Warning: grammar 0x06439628 <> failed to return from phaseFinish
17:01:42 Warning: jit paused flag already set for dd10edit
17:01:42 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Global dictation engine sink
17:01:43 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Dragon, vcmd sink, Start App, hWnd 0x0
17:01:43 Warning: jit paused flag already set for natspeak, SDK engine sink
17:01:43 Warning: jit paused flag already set for natspeak, SDK engine sink
17:01:43 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Dragon NaturalText Module
17:01:43 Warning: jit paused flag already set for DgnMyCmds, vcmd sink, MyCmds: MARK HAIMES MAY 21: MyCommands (Global) [0], hWnd 0x0
17:01:43 Warning: jit paused flag already set for dd10edit
17:01:43 Warning: Grammar filter failed on 0x06439628 <>
17:01:43 Error: Overflow Error detected at end of recog
17:02:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
17:02:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x06439628 <>
17:03:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
17:03:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x04caa9c0 <MyCmds: MARK HAIMES MAY 21: MyCommands (Global) [0]>
17:03:19 LOG (Perf): DgnSAPI paused -> BeginUtt = 1 msec
17:03:19 Warning: Paused cookie not found, key 1122 cookie 1032 name natspeak, SDK engine sink
17:03:19 Warning: jit paused flag already set for dd10edit
17:03:19 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Global dictation engine sink
17:03:19 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Dragon, vcmd sink, Start App, hWnd 0x0
17:03:19 Warning: jit paused flag already set for natspeak, SDK engine sink
17:03:19 Warning: jit paused flag already set for Dragon NaturalText Module
17:03:19 Warning: jit paused flag already set for DgnMyCmds, vcmd sink, MyCmds: MARK HAIMES MAY 21: MyCommands (Global) [0], hWnd 0x0
17:03:19 Warning: jit paused flag already set for dd10edit
17:04:19 Time out waiting for PhraseFinish!
17:04:19 Error: phrase finish failed in grammar 0x04b1d028 <StartApp-enx>
17:04:20 Timeout waiting for some client to Resume the server.
17:04:20   Outstanding pause count = 0, JIT count = 1, timeout = 60000
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name dd10edit key 738 cookie 1031 time 6707845641570752
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name Global dictation engine sink key 866 cookie 1031 time 8207820020090112
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name Dragon, vcmd sink, Start App, hWnd 0x0 key 994 cookie 1031 time 6707845641569360
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name natspeak, SDK engine sink key 1122 cookie 1034 time 7996060952736568
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name natspeak, SDK engine sink key 1410 cookie 1032 time 7996060954389896
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name Dragon NaturalText Module key 1666 cookie 1031 time 6707845645214896
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name DgnMyCmds, vcmd sink, MyCmds: MARK HAIMES MAY 21: MyCommands (Global) [0], hWnd 0x0 key 2338 cookie 1032 time 6707845645209304
17:04:20 Info: jitpaused name dd10edit key 26146 cookie 1031 time 6707845669742080
17:04:20 Warning: Grammar filter failed on 0x04E2C268 <>
17:04:20 Error: Overflow Error detected at end of recog

 

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Did you try mouse left clicking the little grey box with a red circle, in the upper left-hand corner of your Results Box. If you don't have the Results Box viewable, you can change this setting in the DragonBar View options by placing a checkmark in Show preliminary results.

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Lunis,

Thanks for your reply. No, I did not try that as I hate the Results Box and intentionally make it not viewable. But what of the Dragon log? What problem is that pointing to as the cause?

Thanks.

MDH

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Mark,

Surely you must have Lindsay's SpeechStart?  With that, you could have said, "Restart Dragon" and Dragon would have restarted.  If Microsoft Outlook, Word or any of those select and say type programs were already open, you would've needed to close and reopen them.  You also may have had to close Internet Explorer and reopen it again if it was open at the time of restarting Dragon via SpeechStart.  

If I am not using DNS for a short period or even a longer one, I always turn the microphone off by saying "Microphone Off."  Then I turn it on again when I am ready to use it simply by saying the SpeechStart command "Switch on Dragon."  That way, there is no lag when you go to use it again.

Cheers

 

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Tiger Feet

| DNS 12 Professional | KnowBrainer 2012 | Windows 7 Professional /64 Bit | Intel Core i7 Quad Core 3840QM (2.80GHz) 8MB | 16GB RAM. | 240GB Intel 520 Series SSD Boot Drive | 750GB 7200 rpm Secondary Drive  | Plantronics Wireless Handsfree Microphone CS60-USB. |

Tiger Feet (Andy?),

Yes, I am aware of Lindsay's SpeechStart, and even helped with the pre-release testing of it. It is a brilliant program which would be invaluable for a lot of people. There is some limitation in those using Windows XP (my office computer, supplied by the hospital, has XP, home is Windows 7). The accuracy of discrimination between dictation and proper command recognition is less in XP versus Windows 7. Lindsay will need to explain the technical details. Because of that, and that I have no physical limitations, I have less need of the program, although it is a invaluable to those that need it.

MDH

 

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Ah... I did not realise you  were using XP. I should have checked your profile first. My mistake.

Cheers

 

 

 

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Tiger Feet

| DNS 12 Professional | KnowBrainer 2012 | Windows 7 Professional /64 Bit | Intel Core i7 Quad Core 3840QM (2.80GHz) 8MB | 16GB RAM. | 240GB Intel 520 Series SSD Boot Drive | 750GB 7200 rpm Secondary Drive  | Plantronics Wireless Handsfree Microphone CS60-USB. |

Mark,

Are you saying that you have a problem using Lindsay's utility under Windows XP? I'm running DNS 10.1 Medical under Windows XP for testing purposes and I use it. In fact, properly set up, it works not only perfectly well under Windows XP, it even works slightly better than under Windows 7. However, you do have to install SAPI 5 (I believe it's SAPI 5 .1), but I had absolutely no problems doing so and it works like a charm for me.


Just curious as I could have misunderstood what you're trying to say in this regard.

Chuck

For the things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them. - Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)

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MDH,
Are you using a laptop? There is a built in microphone that comes with your laptop that is sometimes not turned off when you start DNS. I had to go and manually turn mine off

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Stephen J. Rockower, MD

Capitol Orthopaedics & Rehabilitation, LLC

Rockville, Maryland, USA

www.cordocs.com

@DrBonesMD

Stephen,

No, was not using a laptop, but thanks for your reply.

MDH

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Sorry to take so long getting back to you on this. It's the overflow buffer. If you have a five-minute conversation, with your microphone turned on, NaturallySpeaking could easily take 20 min. to figure out what you said because you are so far away from the microphone. NaturallySpeaking might eventually catch up but it could take a long time. End Tasking NatSpeak, via the Task Manager was your best option, under the circumstances. This is actually normal NaturallySpeaking behavior.

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Lunis,

Thanks for your reply.

MDH

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