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Created On: 05/22/2012 06:16 PM
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 Increasing dictation speed ?   - grey1beard - 05/22/2012 06:16 PM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - R. Wilke - 05/22/2012 06:33 PM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - grey1beard - 05/23/2012 03:43 AM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - R. Wilke - 05/23/2012 03:56 AM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - grey1beard - 05/23/2012 04:43 AM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - grey1beard - 06/11/2012 10:59 AM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - Lunis Orcutt - 06/11/2012 06:08 PM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - grey1beard - 06/12/2012 10:32 AM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - R. Wilke - 06/12/2012 11:01 AM  
 Increasing dictation speed ?   - grey1beard - 06/12/2012 11:35 AM  
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 05/22/2012 06:16 PM
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Is it possible, after creating a profile in DNS 11 that is giving "acceptable results", to increase the speed of dictation without major loss of accuracy ?

I ask this as a complete newbie in the field, and from a position of helping someone else set up her system.

The project is aimed at allowing her to reminisce into an Olympus Recorder, then transcribe her audio files by downloading them into DNS11 installed in a HP laptop running XP Pro with 2Gb RAM. This is a dedicated machine, with no other software installed, so hopefully will get us started.

We're very much at the beginning stage, and somehow I must persuade her to talk more slowly, especially during the preliminary stages, but she is getting very desponent at the slow progress we're making. Being an octogenarian full of energy, she is testing my diplomatic skills somewhat, and I'm considering getting her to just concentrate on the dictation, while I remove the laptop to my own keeping for the duration of the learning process.

This would allow her to carry on recording "teaching" texts for DNS in parallel with recording her memories , thus giving her the satisfaction of getting them on the record, and allowing me to guide the improvements in accuracy.

This supposes that the answer to my original question is "yes", or do I have an additional problem of changing her life-long habit of talking at high speed.

At least she does have a good clear voice ! It's just so fast.

Last thought - is there software that could slow down the output of the recorder that DNS could learn to cope with ?

Many thanks for advice / comments,

John



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 05/22/2012 06:33 PM
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The problem is not with speed, you can dictate as fast as you can as long as you speak clearly enough. As far as considering to slow down the output of the recorder, that wouldn't make any difference also because Dragon will read the recording at its own pace anyhow. Instead of having her read training texts, you should show her HOW to actually dictate using live input, dictating into a headset or microphone for that matter, before moving on to offline recognition.

One last question, do you actually use it yourself?

Rüdiger


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 05/23/2012 03:43 AM
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Thanks for your reply, Rüdiger.

Using it myself ? Just considering it again.

I last used it when it was ver 4, so it's somewhat different now, I think.

Mind you that may just be the passage of time, and the failing brain cells.

My youngest  grandson has severe dyslexia, so I might pursue it again for his benefit.

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John



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 05/23/2012 03:56 AM
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John,

it's totally different now in version 11, just like night and day. So I would strongly suggest you go back to it again first thing, because otherwise you couldn't show others how to use it, to be honest.

Basically, all it takes is a brief reading as training (when using a recorder) or even no training at all when dictating into a headset, and off you take. The most important thing is to enunciate clearly and to speak in entire phrases, including punctuation signs.

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Well, it's past the point where we can make any changes in the code, but we can still make changes to the Easter Egg!

 05/23/2012 04:43 AM
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Rüdiger

I have actually loaded 11 onto my own desktop with that very idea, and admit that I do need to sit down and have a good session with it myself.
I'm sure you know how it is - so many projects, so little time !
Currently, I'm thinking that if I can get her to do some recording, and separate the two needs - teaching Dragon and teaching her - it might give her a psycho boost past this first hurdle.
Perhaps teaching myself has to come first
Regards
John

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 06/11/2012 10:59 AM
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Well, we're moving forward, after "alarums and excursions" of various sorts, but I think I'm suffering from confusion brought on by possible false memories of using ver. 4.
I had the impression, before starting, that having got past the initial reading for creating a user profile, the basic method of improving DNS came from new readings that were then corrected in a word processor window, and by comparing pre- and post-correction files, DNS would slowly become more accurate.
As my initial searching of the software finds no sign of this process, could someone point out the error of my ways, and while I sit in a darkened room, give me a quiet word on the early training methods I should use.

But if I am right, and can improve by correcting via the keyboard, could someone tell me how, as I can find no instruction like "Open dragonPad, select your saved txt(?) file, correct it and save. " etc.

Just by transcribing several 5 minute readings, I can see that the the software is making improvements already, and if correction of texts is not part of the process, "respect" to the designers.

My final question for today would be "is there a BDG (Brain-Dead-Guide) anywhere to give newbies like myself a quick start ? Searching the forum, and even the Help files are good for specific Q & A's, but I could do with a "Do this, then that" type of guidance. The questions come after !

Many thanks for your patience,
John

PS should I have started a new thread with this last post 



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 06/11/2012 06:08 PM
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 06/12/2012 10:32 AM
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Hi Lunis, and thanks for an answer to my final question.
So getting into converting her reminiscences to text using a digital recorder is -
1. Buy a digital recorder that comes bundled with DNS 11 Recorder,
2. Then buy a better microphone, because you have just discovered that the recorder microphone is not good enough by everyone's opinion,
3. Then buy a dvd to learn how to use DNS ver 11 Recorder, because the help files don't give beginners enough help.

I wonder what my next advice(which I give freely) to her should be.

I'm hoping that I can make some progress by getting this question of manually correcting files answered.

John


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 06/12/2012 11:01 AM
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I wonder what my next advice(which I give freely) to her should be.

 

There are just a few rules to obey in following the path to using the software successfully:

 

(1) Spend more money.

 

(2) Don't get frustrated.

 

(3) Concentrate on providing the best achievable input, by learning to dictate distinctively, steadily, and in long enough phrases, including and up until punctuation marks without pausing in between.

 

(4) After a while, stop concentrating on it, but make this become a habit.

 

Rüdiger

 



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 06/12/2012 11:35 AM
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Good advice, and I shall try and take it.
John

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