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Topic Title: Not having to switch modes to get desired text
Topic Summary: How do you do it?
Created On: 05/02/2012 07:14 PM
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 Not having to switch modes to get desired text   - Jonny - 05/02/2012 07:14 PM  
 Not having to switch modes to get desired text   - Lunis Orcutt - 05/02/2012 09:46 PM  
 Not having to switch modes to get desired text   - Jonny - 05/02/2012 10:25 PM  
 Not having to switch modes to get desired text   - Chucker - 05/03/2012 08:17 AM  
 Not having to switch modes to get desired text   - Lunis Orcutt - 05/03/2012 10:30 AM  
 Not having to switch modes to get desired text   - Jonny - 05/03/2012 01:36 PM  
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Jonny
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I spoke to Lumis earlier, and I had a question regarding changing modes, but he wanted me to ask it on the forum so here it goes.

I want to know if there was a way to get the desired text without having to switch modes each time? For example between normal mode, number mode and spelling mode.

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                        Welcome to the World’s Most Popular Speech Recognition Forum

We suspect your actual question is “How do you dictate digits, instead of word numbers without having to switch from Normal Mode to Spell Mode or Numbers Mode?” Perhaps the biggest disadvantage of a support forum is that end-users often don't include enough information when asking questions. If we hadn't spoken earlier, We wouldn't have a clue to this question.

1. Say
numeral two to produce the digit 2 without having to switch out of Normal Mode.
2. Change your Tools/Auto-Formatting Numbers, if greater than or equal to from 10 - 0.

Note that the 2nd option may produce the undesirable effect of substituting 1 for one but we actually like it that way. You can always play it safe and change that setting from 10 - 2 if you prefer.


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Thank you Lunis. Sorry I wasn't more specific but I am new to using forums and I assumed you would know what I was talking about.
What about changing to other modes, like spelling mode?

Is it advisable that one program their own commands versus using NaturallySpeaking preprogram commands, if it is easier for the end-user? One could do this under Tools/Add New Commands, correct? What is your take on a newbie doing this?

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Sorry I wasn't more specific but I am new to using forums and I assumed you would know what I was talking about.

What about changing to other modes, like spelling mode?

Is it advisable that one program their own commands versus using NaturallySpeaking preprogram commands, if it is easier for the end-user? One could do this under Tools/Add New Commands, correct? What is your take on a newbie doing this?

Jonny,

First, as long as your KnowBrainer profile is correct, you are using DNS 11.5 Premium. The only commands that you can create in Premium are Text-and-Graphics macros. Since you indicates that you're not using KnowBrainer, your only current option is to use the built-in DNS commands. The only value in creating your own commands anyway vs. using the built-in DNS commands would be to overcome limitations in those commands. Since Dragon has some 10,000+ built-in commands, most of which are Natural Language Commands, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to reinvent the wheel because these commands are not only reliable, they execute faster. In your case, you would have to get a third-party scripting language like KnowBrainer, Vocola (Natlink/NatPython), or an add-in like VoicePower, in order to create or have access to the kinds of commands to which I suspect you are referring. In addition, consider the fact that you're more likely to remember approximately 100 unique commands and probably will use fewer than that even if you were able to create your own.

Second, relative to the various modes (normal, command, spell, numbers, & dictation), each has its own unique characteristics and set of limitations. Rather than try to explain them here, I would suggest you review them in the Dragon Help where they are explained in reasonable detail.

Lastly, one of the difficulties in creating your own commands is the fact that, for the most part, doing so requires some knowledge of programming (scripting). If that is something that is new to you, then there's a rather steep initial learning curve.

Chuck Runquist
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VoiceTeach LLC
Home of VoicePower®: We don't make Dragon NaturallySpeaking, we make it better!

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is." - Yogi Berra



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The advantage of changing from Normal Mode to Spell Mode or Numbers Mode would be locking DNS into a mode that would prevent numbers or spellings from accidentally being misinterpreted as a word. However the disadvantage would be having to pause, say the switch to Numbers Mode command, dictate your numbers and reverse the process to switch back to Normal Mode. For normal dictation, we would recommend against switching modes and we never switch out of Normal Mode. That's why we gave you our previous 2 alternative solutions which allow you perform all of your work from within Normal Mode. Of course everyone works in a unique manner and our previous 2 suggestions may not be well suited to your workflow.

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Is it advisable that one program their own commands versus using NaturallySpeaking preprogram commands


This depends on your work but in our opinion, if you're not using personalize commands, you're not taking full advantage of the technology and as Chuck pointed out, DNS Premium is limited to boilerplate text commands and built-in commands. You would need to upgrade to the Preferred/Premium to Pro 11.5 Upgrade or add a Third-party Command utility to utilize the missing 1\2 of the speech recognition equation. Here's a few examples:

1. When we get spammed by some company that we made the mistake of purchasing from like CDW, TigerSoft or even Nuance, we can permanently prevent future e-mails by saying
Permanently Block which will create a Microsoft Outlook rule to prevent any further e-mails from these companies and permanently delete them. There's nothing like saying goodbye forever to spam.

2. Have you wondered how we color text to display the names of commands or create those embedded hyperlinks? Let's just say that we don't do it manually

3. Have you ever wanted to reply to a plaintext message in HTML to preserve your autograph in Outlook? Have you ever wanted to say
Schedule an appointment on August 24 at 2:15 PM, Dial phone numbers by saying something like Call Pizza Perfect, go to any website by saying something like Go to KnowBrainer Forum? Our entire company is run via speech recognition commands and dictation. If we did not have this capability, we would not get out of work until midnight. Some of our shipping commands take over 2 minutes to complete so we use 2 microphones on 2 computers to get the job done. And… Did you notice how the digit 2 rather than two appears in our postings? We don't waste time dictating numeral two. Even our little 1 - 3 outline (dictated as “one to three” ) was begun by saying Double List 1 from the middle of the previous paragraph.

Dictation is the tip of the proverbial speech recognition iceberg. Creating and utilizing commands along with manipulating your personal vocabulary can quite literally double your efficiency. For this reason, we no longer recommend purchasing DNS Premium except for consumer use because there is just so much more you can do with DNS Pro or by adding a third-party command utility. You can even create macros that verbally respond to your requests like Star Trek and we've had this capability since 1996. See our 1998 Star Trek Interview. Who says work doesn't have to be fun?


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Thank you guys for your posts.  I will continue learning how to use Dragon dictation and if everything works out I will consider purchasing an upgrade.  Either the Pro version or Knowbrainer 2011.  I know Lunis told me that if I installed Knowbrainer on my system, it would be like having the Pro version on steroids.
Thank you again,
Jonathan

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