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Topic Title: How do I turn off all interaction between DNS 11.5 and other programs?
Topic Summary: Since I use Dragon ONLY for transcribing dictation, I don't want it interacting with other programs. How do I turn this interaction off?
Created On: 04/13/2012 08:22 PM
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 04/13/2012 08:22 PM
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Robinton
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Since I use Dragon 11.5 Premium ONLY for transcribing dictation, I don't want it interacting with other programs. How do I turn this interaction off?

For example, I may double-click something in Word, and Dragon's correction box pops up.  I don't want this or anything like it.  I don't want anything I do in any other program to affect Dragon, and I don't want anything I do in any other program to affect Dragon.

I should mention that I don't have a microphone on my computer - the dictation I transcribe is recorded on a digital recorder.  However, I do sometimes listen to videos, etc., while working.  Is there any danger of that interfering with Dragon, or are the two channels entirely separate?

Thank you. 

 04/14/2012 08:03 AM
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Since I use Dragon 11.5 Premium ONLY for transcribing dictation, I don't want it interacting with other programs. How do I turn this interaction off?

For example, I may double-click something in Word, and Dragon's correction box pops up.  I don't want this or anything like it.  I don't want anything I do in any other program to affect Dragon, and I don't want anything I do in any other program to affect Dragon.

Robinton,

If you open the Dragon Options dialog | Corrections tab and there is a checkmark in the checkbox for "Enable double-click to correct", just remove the check mark and that will solve your "double-click" problem in Microsoft Word or any other application for that matter.

When you created a new user, you should have selected "Digital audio recorder (includes .wav, .mp3, .wma, .dss, .ds2)". This option prevents the use of any microphone and only allows you to transcribe audio files from a Digital Voice Recorder. Otherwise, if you have no microphone it wouldn't let you create a standard user profile (i.e., USB, mic-in, line in, etc.).

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I should mention that I don't have a microphone on my computer - the dictation I transcribe is recorded on a digital recorder.  However, I do sometimes listen to videos, etc., while working.  Is there any danger of that interfering with Dragon, or are the two channels entirely separate?

You can limit what Dragon does or doesn't do, but you can't shut it down completely. In order for Dragon to work the way you have it set up, you still have to have a user profile and you still have to load it in order to transcribe audio files. Regardless, the above option disabled should accomplish everything that you can do to prevent Dragon from interfering with what you do. Since you're not using a microphone, listening to music or videos while working should not interfere with DNS at all. The microphone channel and the audio out channel are completely separate from one another (i.e., Recording device vs. Playback device). The only time they are likely to interfere with one another is if you create a standard user profile using a microphone. If you have no microphone and you created a DVR user profile, then you will have no conflicts with Dragon in this regard.

Chuck Runquist
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VoiceTeach LLC
Home of VoicePower®: We don't make Dragon NaturallySpeaking, We make it better!

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 04/14/2012 05:27 PM
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Thank you, Chucker.  However, a feature I DO want, and that I use all the time, is to double-click on a word in Dragon Pad and open the correction box.  I don't want to shut off that feature in Dragon Pad, only in other programs.  Isn't there some way I can do this in Windows Registry, or in a .ini file, or some other settings somewhere?

When I was installing Dragon, the program said I needed to close MS Word so it could be modified, and that otherwise it would be modified later.  If Word needed to be modified, it should be possible to unmodify it, yes?

Also, I see in my systems tray an icon to turn Dragon's microphone on.  Is there a way I can get rid of that?  I'm not interested in talking to my computer.

Thank you! 

 04/14/2012 10:46 PM
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Unfortunately, double-click correction is an all or nothing feature when it comes to Microsoft Word. Nuance could've made this feature a toggle for each application but if they tried to accommodate every individual request, you would need a supercomputer with a 128 Gb of RAM to run it on. Nuance has to decide between what features are important and what features are only in demand by a few.

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When I was installing Dragon, the program said I needed to close MS Word so it could be modified, and that otherwise it would be modified later. If Word needed to be modified, it should be possible to unmodify it, yes?


You should NEVER install an application when other applications are running. This is an invitation for disaster. ALWAYS close every major application other than antivirus utilities. Consider yourself lucky that NaturallySpeaking installed without a hiccup. The reason why you received the modification question is because NaturallySpeaking has to install an add-in (plug-in) in order to utilize Full Text Control (Select-&-Say) in applications like Microsoft Word, Outlook and Excel. This add-in is exclusively for Full Text Control and has nothing to do with any other features such as double-click correction. In other words there is nothing to “unmodify” (for lack of a better term). Note that you can optionally disable the NaturallySpeaking add-in, through the Microsoft Word options, if you have absolutely no use for NaturallySpeaking in Microsoft Word but we think you will still be stuck with the double-click correction feature until you disable it globally. 

You can partially hide NaturallySpeaking by changing the DragonBar view from the default setting to Tray Icon Only which will display a small microphone and the taskbar. If the little microphone icon is actually in your way, you can always left click on it and drag it over the top of the little white triangle which will open the view to your other hidden icons. Then simply drop the microphone icon into that area and it will be out of sight.

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 04/15/2012 07:23 AM
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However, a feature I DO want, and that I use all the time, is to double-click on a word in Dragon Pad and open the correction box.  I don't want to shut off that feature in Dragon Pad, only in other programs.  Isn't there some way I can do this in Windows Registry, or in a .ini file, or some other settings somewhere?

Robinton,

As Lunis points out, DNS was designed for dictation primarily, not simply transcription using a digital voice recorder. The latter is simply a sub feature. Unfortunately, you can't have your cake and eat it too. While DNS will accommodate you up to a point, it was never designed, and never will be, to accommodate your needs specifically. Having been part of the product team for Dragon NaturallySpeaking up to January 2002, and having participated in the development process (development lifecycle), I can tell you flat out that DNS will never be modified specifically to accommodate your needs. Unfortunately, your only choice is to use it as is, or don't use it at all. I'm not criticizing your needs, I'm simply pointing out that what you see is what you get, and it just isn't ever going to be changed.

The answer to your basic question is NO. There are no INI files or registry entries that you can modify to do what you want Dragon to do for you. You're just going to have to live with that. Even the INI files that you can modify our toggles. That is, they are either on, or off period. And, there are no registry entries in the Windows system registry to accommodate you Re: Dragon NaturallySpeaking.

The only thing that you can do is if you're going to be working in Microsoft Word, you can't disable the "Enable double-click to correct" option for that period of time and then reenable it when you want to work in DragonPad Re: audio file transcription. However, that you're ONLY option.

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When I was installing Dragon, the program said I needed to close MS Word so it could be modified, and that otherwise it would be modified later.  If Word needed to be modified, it should be possible to unmodify it, yes?

As Lunis points out, you can turn off the Natural Language Commands if all you want to do is to type (manually) in Microsoft Word. However, if you need to use "double-click to correct", that feature is either on or off and is independent of the Natural Language Command (Full Text Control (Select and Say)) Re: Microsoft Word.

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Also, I see in my systems tray an icon to turn Dragon's microphone on.  Is there a way I can get rid of that?  I'm not interested in talking to my computer.

If you set up your user profile correctly, then you shouldn't be able to access (turn on) the microphone. It's simply an indicator in your case that Dragon NaturallySpeaking is loaded just like any other of the icons in the system tray. If you don't want to see it, you can hide it. But you can't disable it. Regardless, it shouldn't be accessible. That is, if you click on it it shouldn't turn the microphone on. Again, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

On the other hand, if you can turn the microphone on (i.e., it should be currently red and clicking on it should not turn it green), then your user profile is not set up correctly.

Chuck Runquist
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VoiceTeach LLC
Home of VoicePower®: We don't make Dragon NaturallySpeaking, We make it better!

Be careful what you ask for. What you get might not be what you expect, or want. - Aesop (620 BC - 700 BC)



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 04/16/2012 05:51 PM
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Lunis, Chuck --

 Thank you both for your detailed, thoughtful replies.  I can't say I like the answer, but obviously I have to live with it.  Oh well.  I'm not about to give up the benefits of Dragon!

 Two related issues:   At one point, Dragon switched to nospacesbetweenwordsfortheremainderofthetranscript.  On another occasion, Dragon switched to Initial Caps -- or Rather, Title Case -- for the Remainder of the Transcript.  And I've also seen it switch to ALL CAPS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TRANSCRIPT.

I don't know how these got triggered, since Dragon was only transcribing, but I certainly don't want these effects.   Is there any way to turn off these commands?  Really, the only command I want is to be able to double-click and get the correction box.

Thank you!

Robinton 

 04/16/2012 06:45 PM
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Two related issues: At one point, Dragon switched to nospacesbetweenwordsfortheremainderofthetranscript. On another occasion, Dragon switched to Initial Caps -- or Rather, Title Case -- for the Remainder of the Transcript. And I've also seen it switch to ALL CAPS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TRANSCRIPT.

Most likely this is because Dragon recognized something in your dictation as a "no space on", and the likes.

Rüdiger

 



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