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Topic Title: Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary
Topic Summary: Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary
Created On: 03/27/2012 04:44 AM
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 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - Balubeto Balubeto - 03/27/2012 04:44 AM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - Stephan Kuepper - 03/27/2012 05:23 AM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - Balubeto Balubeto - 03/27/2012 05:54 AM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - Stephan Kuepper - 03/27/2012 06:17 AM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/27/2012 12:00 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - R. Wilke - 03/27/2012 12:18 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - G.J. Premo - 03/27/2012 02:33 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - monkey8 - 03/27/2012 02:44 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - G.J. Premo - 03/27/2012 03:08 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - R. Wilke - 03/27/2012 03:41 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - Lunis Orcutt - 03/27/2012 09:10 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - G.J. Premo - 03/27/2012 11:50 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - xxtraloud - 09/06/2012 07:14 AM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - G.J. Premo - 09/06/2012 01:17 PM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - xxtraloud - 09/07/2012 04:33 AM  
 Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 and the Italian vocabulary   - G.J. Premo - 09/07/2012 12:24 PM  
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Balubeto Balube..
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HI

I have Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional 11.5 in English.

I want to know how I do I install and select the Italian vocabulary.

THANKS

BYE

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 03/27/2012 05:23 AM
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How about purchasing the Italian version?

:-)

The English version comes with only one language. All international versions have the country's language(s) and English US/UK. An upgrade version should suffice, but check with your local dealer first. Locate one on http://italy.nuance.com/  

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 03/27/2012 05:54 AM
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Balubeto Balube..
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Wait a minute:

How do I know if my version is international? If it is, how do I install the Italian vocabulary?

THANKS

BYE



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 03/27/2012 06:17 AM
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Help - About

indicates version and language.

BTW in Nuance Speak, "International Edition" means "English". Non-American versions give the country's language. Mine, for instance, says "Deutsch" (German).

To set up an Italian user, create a new profile and choose "Italian" in the wizard. Obviously, this only works if Italian is installed in the first place. 

When you have the Italian version, Italian is the default language and you have to actively select "English". Since you would probably remember this, I'm fairly sure you don't have Italian available on your system.

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 03/27/2012 12:00 PM
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                        Welcome to the World’s Most Popular Speech Recognition Forum

Stephan’s recommendation to click About NaturallySpeaking under the Help menu will let you know if you are already using Italian or if you are simply using the English-only version. Unfortunately, it sounds like you purchased the English version. The only way you can add Italian is to additionally purchase the Italian version of NaturallySpeaking which is unfortunate because the Italian version would've included English. Although you won't be able to get out of purchasing the Italian version, if you want the features of DNS Pro, you will have purchase the Pro version because NaturallySpeaking will not allow you to install a lower end product like the Home Edition or Premium without removing the previous DNS installation. The good news is that you will only need to purchase the lower priced Pro to Pro Italian upgrade which you can install over your existing DNS Pro English.

HOWEVER, before doing anything, you might consider contacting the Nuance Italian division directly and explaining your issue with them. They may be able to offer you a better deal since the Italian version includes English and you were apparently sold the wrong product to begin with. No guarantees but Nuance might be willing to make this right with you.


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The good news is that you will only need to purchase the lower priced Pro to Pro Italian upgrade which you can install over your existing DNS Pro English.

I don't think so because Italian 11.5 isn't out yet, and the same is true for Spanish and Dutch.

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 03/27/2012 02:33 PM
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Unless you purchase VM Ware or other software to run 2 operating systems on one computer.

I would like to find any old or cheap edition of DNS Italian, be it 7-10 or home 11, but can't find one in the U.S. (11 from Europe would be too expensive for my limited use).

Does anyone have one to sell?

 03/27/2012 02:44 PM
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Just for information purposes and to expand on what Rüdiger and Lunis are saying.  DNS is designed to allow you to install multiple language installations on top of each other.  Easiest explained by an example,

You can install French Professional on top of Spanish Professional and you will have the choice of using DNS in one of 3 languages on ONE installation (Spanish, French and English, English coming with both Spanish and French versions as it happens), no virtual machines necessary.  There is only one caveat:

Both installations must be the identical version e.g. version 11 Professional, version 11.5 Premium etc.

The problem is that version 11.5 is only available in French, English and German so if for example you wish to include Spanish or Italian then you need to use version 11 of what ever products you wish to mix.  We had an installation with this recently and I had French 11.5 and Spanish 11 both Professional, to cut a long story short Nuance in the end had to burn me a version 11 French DVD specifically to get the installation to work because it isn't possible to get Spanish in 11.5.  It works beautifully but I lose all the benefits of 11.5 compared to 11.

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 03/27/2012 03:08 PM
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Very interesting.  So, if you have an unlimited budget, you could have DNS running on one machine in every language in which DNS makes an identically numbered version (i.e., 11, 11.5) etc.?

 That is good.  What is bad that is that you have to pay from scratch for each version you install, instead of having language add-on packs, at least if you start out in the English version..

Those who start out with a non-English version get a break, because two languages, the 2nd one is free.

Those who start out with an English version are disadvantaged, every additional language is paying full price.

Morale of the story, buy a non-English version at the start, if you can find one at a reasonable price (which isn't easy here in the U.S, unless maybe buying from Canada for the French version).  After version 8, Nuance stopped supplying foreign language versions to U.S. retailers, as far as I can determine. (With the possible exception of Spanish?, at least French & Italian were stopped).

 

 03/27/2012 03:41 PM
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Those who start out with an English version are disadvantaged, every additional language is paying full price.

From that perspective, yes. As far as buying multiple languages, your best bet would be looking for the Dutch version, because that includes Dutch, English, German, and French.

Any other of the so-called "international" versions which means any other than English (Stephan being wrong about it just once more, but then he is the German super VAR),  minimally include English next to the native version.

However, please also note that the development of any other "international" languages hasn't been accomplished as far as English in some way or the other, at least this is true from what I can tell when looking at the German and the French versions, and I would bet that even less effort went into the other versions, which somehow seems related to the target markets of course.

Rüdiger

 



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Well, it's past the point where we can make any changes in the code, but we can still make changes to the Easter Egg!

 03/27/2012 09:10 PM
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What is bad that is that you have to pay from scratch for each version you install, instead of having language add-on packs


You don't exactly have to pay from scratch. Once you purchase 1 full copy of say Dutch for example, you could purchase a Spanish upgrade rather than shelling out for a full box version. It's not what you're looking for but at least you wouldn't have to pay full box pricing.

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As Arte Johnston (?) used to say on Laugh-In, veerrry interesting.  Now, if the upgrades were only available in the US .....
 09/06/2012 07:14 AM
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I managed to install two languages. I mainly use English but sometimes I find myself not using Italian because switching between the two is not very practical.

Does anybody know if it is possible to run a second instance of Dragon, or any other solution aside from running a VM with a second operating system? I would be happy to just dictate Italian and then copy and paste it to the main window.

Would it be possible to install the two versions side-by-side, maybe by modifying some registers and folders.
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If you have Window 7 Ultimate (and maybe also true of Professional?), you can run a virtual XP machine without buying VM, and insalll a 2d language DNS in the XP machine.

Not ideal.  Thiere is a delay in switching the XP mode.

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Thank you for the suggestion, I have looked into it and it seems like a good option. Although I also tried VMware with Windows 8 and it works fine as well.

At this point which one would you suggest considering my hardware, would it be better to just use Windows 8 at this point? I would really only be running Dragon for some simple dictation and Internet browsing. I reserved 2 GB for the Windows 8 virtual machine.

Originally posted by: G.J. Premo If you have Window 7 Ultimate (and maybe also true of Professional?), you can run a virtual XP machine without buying VM, and insalll a 2d language DNS in the XP machine.

Not ideal.  Thiere is a delay in switching the XP mode.



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I'm not familiar with VMWare or Windows 8, so I wouldn't knew what is best between them and Win7 Ultimate XP Mode for running 2 different Dragons.

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