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Topic Title: Side Bar Font
Topic Summary: Can you change the font size in the SideBar is Dragon 11?
Created On: 03/14/2012 08:34 AM
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 Side Bar Font   - Linda TAC - 03/14/2012 08:34 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - Larry Allen - 03/14/2012 09:59 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - Hands-Free - 03/15/2012 02:43 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - monkey8 - 03/15/2012 06:42 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - Larry Allen - 03/15/2012 07:59 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - monkey8 - 03/15/2012 08:08 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - R. Wilke - 03/15/2012 08:15 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - monkey8 - 03/15/2012 09:23 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - Hands-Free - 03/15/2012 10:40 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - monkey8 - 03/16/2012 07:08 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - R. Wilke - 03/16/2012 07:51 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - monkey8 - 03/16/2012 07:57 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - R. Wilke - 03/16/2012 08:06 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - monkey8 - 03/16/2012 08:20 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - R. Wilke - 03/16/2012 08:34 AM  
 Side Bar Font   - Hands-Free - 03/16/2012 01:40 PM  
 Side Bar Font   - R. Wilke - 03/16/2012 02:37 PM  
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Linda TAC
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Hello,

 Is there a way to change the font size in the SideBar in Dragon 11?  The Nuance people are driving me crazy with their small font sizes!!!!!  The Spell Window Font size issue is still not resolved.  There is no way we can increase the font size to aid our clients with low vision. Has anyone heard anything about a resolution about that problem.

 

Thanks

Linda

 

 03/14/2012 09:59 AM
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Larry Allen
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Yes, the Sidebar font size can be changed, but not easily.

It requires modifications to the files that are in (Windows 7 64-bit) C:\Program Files (x86)\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking11\Help\enx .  "enx" is for US English and may be different for other languages.  Then there are directories for the different versions of Dragon.  Then all have both a "sample_cmds" and a "tips" folder, each of which has a "scripts" folder then a dragon.css file.   The dragon.css files need to be modified to change font sizes.  If you are familiar with .css files it is straightforward to change the font sizes. Many who maintain web sites would be familiar with these files.

I've done this so that I know it can be done, but have not actually deployed it to other customers.

One other non-obvious note about the Sidebar -- if you right-click within it, you'll get an option to Print.  That can be useful in some cases to quickly produce sample commands.

 



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 03/15/2012 02:43 PM
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Will changing the Dragon.CSS file within the tips folder change the font size of the Results Box?
 03/15/2012 06:42 PM
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If I were you and I could be bothered I would take a backup copy of the Help folder and then try changing the font sizes in the different CSS stylesheets to see what effects what, ignore the folders with the versions of DNS that you don't have and then reload after changes.  You can just read the cascading stylesheets (CSS) as text files.  Keep a log and then you can tell us all about it Darren :-) seriously would be very useful.

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Larry Allen
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I'd be quite surprised if changing the font sizes in the .css files for the Sidebar changed anything outside of the sidebar.

Each .css file has several font sizes that can be manipulated, and in my experiments I've not seen changes affect anything outside of the sidebar.

The Ease of Use font size changes within Windows do not seem to affect the font size in the Sidebar.



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 03/15/2012 08:08 PM
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Can't say I have looked very closely Larry but presumably then you are saying that all those CSS sheets under the Help directory are purely for the Dragon sidebar?

For most dialogues used in DNS they are held in the dd10enx.dll file in the programs folder and for example you can change the size and font of the spelling window to a degree if you go to dialogue 2004 (you can open them in visual studio or something similar).  We did it to make the spelling window larger last year but its kind of reverse engineering so I don't think nuance would be too happy if we started changing all the dialogues.

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 03/15/2012 08:15 PM
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Quote:
presumably then you are saying that all those CSS sheets under the Help directory are purely for the Dragon sidebar?

I also haven't looked at it, but it's likely so because obviously the sidebar comes as just another HTML element, as for instance a help file, and it is not a resource controlled the way that the dialog boxes are.

Rüdiger

 



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Well, it's past the point where we can make any changes in the code, but we can still make changes to the Easter Egg!

 03/15/2012 09:23 PM
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So what about the Dragon tutorial overview as well as the other tutorial pages?

I am referring to the DLL for the dialogues reference to spelling window.

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 03/15/2012 10:40 PM
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Ironically, the DNS 11.5 help file still says that changing the tooltip system font and size will affect the Results Box.  Is this a bug that is on their list to fix?
 03/16/2012 07:08 AM
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The Dragon help file is talking about the font size and appearance of Tooltip type windows under Windows itself.  For example with Windows 7:

Right click on the desktop | Personalise | Window Colour | Advanced Appearance Settings | Item | Tooltip

then change the colour and font size.  The picture below shows colour green and font size 12 as an example:



Red and font size 16 :-)


Lindsay



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So what about the Dragon tutorial overview as well as the other tutorial pages?

Have a look at dns_tutorial.css, for instance under:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking11\Tutorial\enx\built\professional

Rüdiger

 



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Well, it's past the point where we can make any changes in the code, but we can still make changes to the Easter Egg!

 03/16/2012 07:57 AM
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Yes I was looking this morning and they are all over the place, the ones in the Help subfolders mentioned being predominantly for the sidebar as Larry mentioned.

Having used Dragon for years I never knew until Darren mentioned it about being able to change the tooltip font and size for the whole of Windows which incorporates the results box.  Microsoft have put the settings under Window Colour which is a bit less than intuitive imho.

Lindsay

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 03/16/2012 08:06 AM
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While you have been using Dragon for years, I must have been reading the forums for years:

http://www.knowbrainer.com/pubforum/index.cfm?page=viewForumTopic&topicId=10331&listFull#D2E85FC6-9EE9-D909-ABDF91C8C22thread52246

 



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Well, it's past the point where we can make any changes in the code, but we can still make changes to the Easter Egg!

 03/16/2012 08:20 AM
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Having been using a font size of 16 for the tooltips for the last 20 min it has some pretty annoying attributes like changing the size of the text on the status bar of Internet Explorer to 16 as well.  I think I will go back to the default :-)

You should turn your encyclopaedic knowledge of the forums into a searchable database, either that or we should all read the help files a bit more carefully.

Lindsay

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You should turn your encyclopaedic knowledge of the forums into a searchable database,

I guess we could use a new forum with a more capable search engine.

Rüdiger

 



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Well, it's past the point where we can make any changes in the code, but we can still make changes to the Easter Egg!

 03/16/2012 01:40 PM
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Changing the tooltip font size does, indeed, work for changing the Results Box.  And, it is definitely annoying!  :-)
 03/16/2012 02:37 PM
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Changing the tooltip font size does, indeed, work for changing the Results Box. And, it is definitely annoying! :-)

That's what I experienced a long time ago. Better hold on to what you've got.

Rüdiger

 



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Well, it's past the point where we can make any changes in the code, but we can still make changes to the Easter Egg!

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