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Topic Title: New insall of OS, DNS 11
Topic Summary: New insall of OS, DNS 11
Created On: 02/24/2012 09:48 PM
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 New insall of OS, DNS 11   - hynds - 02/24/2012 09:48 PM  
 New insall of OS, DNS 11   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/25/2012 12:19 PM  
 New insall of OS, DNS 11   - hynds - 02/25/2012 06:10 PM  
 New insall of OS, DNS 11   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/25/2012 07:01 PM  
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 02/24/2012 09:48 PM
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hynds
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A couple of weeks ago, I posted a message explaining that I have a brand new Dell Optiplex 990 (8 gigs RAM, i5 2500 processor, Realtek sound card, Windows 7, etc.). Not only can I not get DNS to work with what is supposed to be a very powerful machine, but I can't get the machine to recognize *any* microphone other than a USB Skype telephone. That is, Windows sound recorded does not hear me on any microphone--from a $20 Radio Shack job to a $150 Boom. 

I have tried these microphones on other computers, and they work with both WSR and DNS. 

Dell, which gives incomparable telephone support (if only Nuance gave support one-tenth as good, even by email!), spent three hours on the phone with me trying to figure out the problem. They concluded that it could be an incorrectly configured OS (driver, whatever) or a sound card problem, but that I need to rule out a software problem first. (Myself, I'm beginning to think I will never get DNS to work again, and that it's neither a driver nor a faulty sound card, but just a misalignment of the stars.) 

So, this is my question: If I recall correctly, someone here said that DNS wants to be installed before any other programs. Is that right? 

Does anyone have any other advice before I proceed to reinstall the OS?

Thanks, 

 

 02/25/2012 12:19 PM
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Dell may be highly qualified in computer related issues but this is a speech recognition related issue which would be beyond their expertise. If you had contacted Nuance, they probably would've told you that the problem is the Realtek soundcard; as a number of us have stated previously.

We believe that Chuck answered this question when he informed you that Nuance recommends against the use of Realtek soundcards and we recommend against the use of any integrated soundcard. The solution is to bypass your integrated soundcard with a proper
USB Pod external soundcard. We don't know where you purchased your theBoom "V4" microphone from but hopefully you have an appropriate PC soundcard cable. We also noted that you purchased a Buddy 6G microphone in October of last year but returned it. Unfortunately, we do not remember if it was defective but assuming that there is nothing wrong with your V4 and you haven't left the microphone muted, the Buddy 6G would be 1 of a number of appropriate choices. Bottom line: Don't expect a Realtek soundcard to work with any speech recognition application. Our desktop computer has a Realtek soundcard and NaturallySpeaking can't even find it although we can make a Windows recording. The problem is your soundcard.


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 02/25/2012 06:10 PM
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Lunis,

Thanks for the feedback.  

I read the article on the Realtek soundcard and fully understood that it is not the world's greatest. However, the fact that WSR was not hearing ANYTHING indicated, to me at least, that there was something else going on--I mean, one thing is for a soundcard not to meet Nuance's demanding requirements, and another is for No sound to get through.

So, I went ahead and did the reinstall. And, lo and behold, WSR now hears me, both with the crappy Radio Shack mic and with the Boom. *And*, most amazingly of all, I was able to configure DNS and pass the sound test and create a user profile. 

Now, I may well find that the performance is not *that* great and that I need an external soundcard. But I didn't want to have another soundcard shipped all the way down to Mexico only to find out, like last time, that that had not solved the problem. 

So, the problem seems to be more or less solved. But looking back on all of this and on the multitude of tests I have run, it occurs to me that the problem could be Skype. Why? Because Skype has heard me all along, on all of the computers I have tested my microphones on, and I wondering if Skype could somehow be monopolizing the sound input. 

Therefore, my question for today is if anyone knows of a possible conflict between Skype and other devices that use the soundcard. Just in case there is such a conflict, I have not installed Skype on my now-DNS-enabled computer. That said, I should note that before this incredible fiasco began, I had used Skype successfully alongside DNS.

All for now, and thanks to those of you who have generously sent your input on this problem.

 

 02/25/2012 07:01 PM
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Skype will let you dedicate several specific sound sources to different features of the application but we have never seen Skype cause a problem on a computer that was running speech recognition. We don't use Skype but we have conducted several tests to verify this and we also have a miserable Realtek soundcard that NaturallySpeaking can't even find, let alone utilize. However, the mischief seems to work differently on various computers.

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