Trying to dictate:  "Please read the 3rd paragraph from the end."  I get:

"Please read the 3rd.

From the end."

I'm sure there is a basic dictation method for this, but do not know that one.  Thanks for the solution.

John K 

 

 

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John K

1. Dictate the phrase without pausing between words: "Pleasereadthe3rdparagraphfromtheendperiod"

2. If the problem persists, create a new profile from scratch (which only takes 5 to 15 minutes).

3. If the problem still persists, say things like this: "Please read the 3rd no-caps paragraph from the end."

On my system, this happens only with medical vocabularies.  Creating a new user won't change the situation, but creating a General English vocabulary would "solve" the problem in that it would support dictation of this particular construct.

I tried changing various word properties for "paragraph" and did not come up with a great solution.  The best that I was able to achieve was to drop the "p" sound on "paragraph" for this construct; saying "third aragraph"; and creating a word "aragraph" that had an alternate written form of "paragraph".  This worked so long as I remembered to alter my pronounciation.

Perhaps someone else can come up with a better solution for the medical vocabularies?   As a practical matter, I would type the word "paragraph" if this only came up occasionally.

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Larry Allen
Softnet Systems, Inc.
http://www.pcspeak.com

If you will be using a word that is also a command, press the SHIFT key that will disable the command initiation sequence while you are speaking that word or phrase. Going the other way, to toggle a command that may overlap dictated text, press the CONTROL key while speaking the command word or phrase. Also, the pace at which you are dictating is often a deciding factor; dictated text tends to be spoken and recorded at a slower, measured pace than command words. Command phrases typically have little or no interstitial pauses between their component words. Single word commands are typically short, clipped utterances that the algorithm recognizes as a command, spoken at a higher pitch, and accent and emphasis shift rearward two or three syllables, depending upon context. Anyone who has ever endured close order drill in the military, or in a marching band for that matter, will immediately know what I am referring to. It's part of the way we speak naturally, and the DNS algorithm takes this into account, mostly. Sometimes, you have to tweak it using the shift and control keys, but with enough repetitions, the algorithm will "learn" what form of action the speaker intends.

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Art Silen

artsilen@sbcglobal.net; art.silen.mediator@gmail.com  

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Art et al.,

Unfortunately, your suggestion doesn't work in DMPE for the following reasons.

First, the medical specialty vocabularies have any entry (structured in-line command in the Vocabulary Editor) for "paragraph". If you locate that entry and click on Properties, you will notice that in the "Use alternate written form 1", the entry in the text box is (new paragraph). This was created using the special formatting. All you have to do is to remove that entry and replace it with the word "paragraph". Deleting the entry doesn't solve the problem, but entering the word "paragraph" as the alternate written form does for this structured commands. From that point on any time that you dictate the word "paragraph", it should end up being spelled out. I tried a couple of different approaches, but they didn't work. This one, so far, appears to resolve the problem.

Chuck Runquist
Technical Project Manager
VoiceTeach LLC
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In instances lik that I just type the offending word in

 

(Less hassle)

 

John

 

 

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Art, this is a good tip, but in this context it doesn't work because "paragraph" is in the OP's vocabulary. No commands are being executed.

Do what Chuck suggested with the alternate form, that should do the trick.

Thanks to Chuck and others.  Vexing problem addressed.  I was at first confused because I could not find the "new line" format under the word paragraph.  But, rather than look a vocabulary, I looked at the "spoken form" for vocabluary and found exactly what Chuck indicated.  Formatting converts that to funciton as a "New Paragraph" command.

I am sure there is some reason for that, but it escapes me.  Solution much appreciated!

John K 

 

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John K