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Topic Title: UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download
Topic Summary: Pre-trained Universal NaturallySpeaking User File
Created On: 01/05/2008 05:35 AM
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 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Lunis Orcutt - 01/05/2008 05:35 AM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - RockinOut - 01/05/2008 10:24 AM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - RockinOut - 01/05/2008 12:14 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Triona - 01/05/2008 02:46 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - RockinOut - 01/05/2008 03:33 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Triona - 01/05/2008 04:05 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - RockinOut - 01/05/2008 04:18 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Triona - 01/05/2008 05:56 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - RockinOut - 01/05/2008 08:06 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Triona - 01/09/2008 11:46 AM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - RockinOut - 01/09/2008 12:35 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Triona - 01/09/2008 01:41 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - RockinOut - 01/12/2008 07:18 AM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Alan - 02/07/2008 02:08 PM  
 UniVoice 9.5 Is Ready to Download   - Lunis Orcutt - 02/07/2008 09:08 PM  
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 01/05/2008 05:35 AM
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The long-awaited UniVoice 9.5 is finally available for download.  UniVoice 9.5 was actually finished several months ago but we held off on releasing it until we could wrap it into the new KnowBrainer 2007 installer.  See following:
 
1.    UniVoice 9.5 should only be used in DNS 9.5 because it is a Ver. 9.5 user profile and not compatible with Ver. 9.0 or 9.1.
 
2.    Your existing UniVoice 9.0/9.1 serial # will work with Ver 9.5 as this is a free upgrade
 
3.     Downloads
a.     UniVoice for DNS Preferred 9.5 (45.81 Mb)
b.     UniVoice for DNS Pro/Med/Leg without vocabs (45.98 Mb)
c.     UniVoice for DNS Pro/Med/Leg with specialty vocabs (227.88 Mb)


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My transition to UniVoice 9.5 (Preferred). EDIT: This procedure based on fact that I have KB2007 installed. If you don't have KB2007 installed go to step 3. If you have KB2006, read the posts below by Triona below and also read the LINKS that I provided in responses to Triona:

This may help others. I will edit post as I proceed. I'm sure there are better ways to do it.

1) Backed up C:\Program Files\KnowBrainer2007\KB8.mdb

2) Uninstalled KB2007

3) Backed up all my user files to another location: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking9\Users\(user file name)

4) Exported my custom vocab to text file: (DNS File Menu) Words, Export

5) Installed KB2007/UniVoice 9.5 Preferred

EDIT 5.25) After fresh install of KB2007 I like to copy/rename the "fresh" KB8.mdb file just to have a backup "virgin" one.

EDIT 5.5) Restored my backup KB8.mdb file

6) IMPORTANT: Immediately after installation, I made a copy of the UniVoice_Preferred_9.5 file. This way I always have a "fresh" copy that I can copy again, rename, and reuse so I don't need to reinstall. This is good if user file gets corrupted or if I want an extra UniVoice user file.

7) With UniVoice file installed, on first usage of file I was prompted to and I ran the Audio Setup to set volume levels and check sound output

EDIT 7.5) SAVE USER FILE

8) IMPORTANT: With this fresh UniVoice user I went to Words, View/Edit, Display Custom words only. The list below will be displayed for custom words that was preinstalled. Here it is and what a BIG improvement this is over the last version of UniVoice. Thank you (don't need all those old words):

“\Left Quote
”\Right Quote
bobblock
byronames
com
comcast
craigslist
Gibbons\gibbins
ich
KB 2007 REV A
Lunis
Mr
org
sale-317491204
shirleyeames
sor
verizon

9) EDIT: I RECOMMEND LEAVING THESE WORDS IN. I deleted "com" and had some problems stated below. It may affect the algorothims to delete these. Maybe, maybe not. All I know is "com" works for me now after I used a "fresh" UniVoice file without deleting this list. I merely imported my own word list in next step below without deleting. Also the curly quotes is nice to have. Edit, delete, modify this list as desired. I erased everything as I have left/right quotes in my exported list already.

10) Words, Import to import the previously exported custom word list in #4 above. SAVE USER.

11) Restored my DNS commands from old UniVoice user to new one :

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking9\Users\(your username)\current MyCmds.dat file in Windows XP


C:\ProgramData\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking9\Data\Users\(your username)\current\MyCmds.dat file in Windows Vista

You cannot open the MyCmds.dat file but this is where NaturallySpeaking stores your macros.

12) Set your options using Tools, Options. I didn't use the options.ini file method because I wanted to see what options UniVoice had selected. I modified DragonBar to task tray, I disabled "Insert two spaces after period." MOST IMPORTANT: I unchecked "Automatically add words to vocabulary." This thing is HIDEOUS. SAVE USER FILE.

13) Now I'm just testing it out, and retraining as needed for DNS/KB commands and phrases as needed. This is where the KnowBrainer command Add to Vocabulary is so productive and time saver.

14) Backup this user file so I don't have to run all these steps again.

I've always have had great luck and great ease with UniVoice with myself and others. I love it. I find it very accurate overall and quick to get productive every time I set up a new fresh UniVoice user.

This is where I'm at so far. Hope it helps others a bit.



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 01/05/2008 12:14 PM
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Interestingly, the "com" just doesn't work for me. However, web addresses with dot com work fine. I did notice that com was in the custom word list for UniVoice install. See previous post. EDIT: Once I reinstated a "fresh/virgin" UniVoice file without deleting the supplied custom words I did not have any more problems. "com" was recognized IMMEDIATELY.

I have many KB VerbalBasic commands: Edit Com, Pace Com, Copy Com, etc.

Usually with a new DNS or UniVoice user I just train com, calm, or the command phrase either through Notepad or "edit vocabulary". Presto bingo, works great.

With this upgrade, it just wouldn't take. Strange. I'd even train it ok, but the command would not "fire". It will dictate "edit com" etc. I tried written/spoken form: no worky worky.

Whatever. . . No big deal. Just used the new KB2007 feature and changed the names back to Edit Command etc (BEST REASON TO UPGRADE TO KB2007). I'll end up probablby renaming it some other one syllable word that I find will work like Edit Bee or Edit Lo or whatever works with my voice with consistency and least strain.

EDIT: I forgot the saying, but "Find the good from failures or problems. . .?" Anyway, I found Edit Co, Pace Co (easier to say than Paste), Copy Co work awesome and for me it's even easier to say than "com". So it all worked out.

I don't fight it. . . Just find what works and move on. So far so good otherwise.

Don't really know why I bothered upgrading. My "old" UniVoice worked awesome for me. "Latest and greatest" syndrome I guess . . .We'll see. I can always use the old one.

I must say that UniVoice still requires some ongoing training and correction. It's just that I find it's much quicker for me to get a usable and highly accurate user file with UniVoice than with standard DNS user file. On a whole I don't need to add to many words or phrases to my vocabulary because my accuracy is so good already. Most corrections are for non-recognition reasons but more logic/algorithm ones: homonyms, technical writing, etc. But that's always the case I suppose no matter what.



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I cannot get the program to install. When I get to synchronization button it tells me it can't find a KB2005 file to synchronize with. I then tried to follow Rockinout's guideline including uninstallingKB 2007 and got the same results.

I do have KB2006 installed.

As always, looking forward to your input. Thanks so much for another freebie! One of the reasons you have such a loyal fan base.

Thanks so much.

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 01/05/2008 03:33 PM
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Triona,

I don't know if you've taken a look at this "KnowBrainer 2007 Goes Gold" thread yet:

CLICK HERE140

There's directions that you should follow in the first post by Lunis: It has to do with Sync-ing. If you haven't done already, I'd recommend reading the whole thread for tips.

If  it asks you to sync during the install: Say no, then sync after the installation per the directions in the linked thread.

 Just make sure you back up your KB8.mdb files and original UniVoice user files before you do anything. 1



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Thank you for getting back to me so quickly, RockinOut,

I went to the thread you suggested and followed the five steps. However when I am prompted to go back to KB 2006 and double click the KB 2007syn file, none exists. it is step numeral for which says to double clickKB2007sync.exe (in the old KB2006 folder).

I wonder if I am to click it and the KB 2007 folder!

 

when I cut and pasted :

kb8UBackUp.mdb

into KB 2006 I did not get a prompt to say yes to an overwrite. I don't know if that makes any difference.

 



I will go through it again to make sure I followed the steps correctly.

just went through all the steps again. Same thing.what ever I did come up I am using both UniVoice 9.5 and KB2007!!



Any thoughts would be appreciated.again, much appreciated.



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Back up kb8.mdb whether it's in the KnowBrainer or KnowBrainer2007 folder/s or both (depends if you already installed KB2007).

Uninstall KB2007 via the control panel if you have it installed (I don't know if this is necessary. It's what I did).

Install the KB2007/UniVoice (They are installed together) by running the setup file, say no if it asks you to sync. Then do the next 5 steps. Don't worry if it does not offer to overwrite in step 3. There's a typo in step 4 below in the original post. I corrected it below.

1. Double-click C:\Program Files\KnowBrainer\KB2005Sync.exe (in your old KB2006).

2. Click the Back Up button
3. Move your newly created C:\Program Files\KnowBrainer\kb8UBackUp.mdb file to C:\Program Files\KnowBrainer2007\ and if you are presented with a prompt about overwriting the existing file; answer yes to overwrite the file.
4. Double-click C:\Program Files\KnowBrainer2007\KB2007Sync.exe
5. Click the Synchronize button to merge your personal commands into KB 2007.


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Thank you, RockinOut,

Followed your instructions to a tee.  Everything is running however when I opened KB 2007, I got a pop-up that said there was an arrow with a command.

I guess my question is how I know everything is running okay?

Any idea?  I will import MyCommands that I have saved.

Appreciate your help very much.

Jim



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Quote:
I got a pop-up that said there was an arrow (error) with a command.
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I discussed this error here at the end of the thread, but I also added an extra post that may help others in a similar scenario: CLICK HERE 

 

 



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I really love UniVoice9.5.  One quick question.  Does it have the 15,000 word vocabulary?  I wanted to save some time of waiting be installation if necessary.

much appreciated. 

 



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Quote:
I really love UniVoice9.5. One quick question. Does it have the 15,000 word vocabulary? I wanted to save some time of waiting be installation if necessary.

The Medium (50,000 word) and Small (2,000 word) KnowBrainer vocabulary is included with KnowBrainer 2007.

Look here for the files and directions:

EDIT #2: I changed pic to a more accurate one that displays the folder drive pathway at C:\Program Files\KnowBrainer2007\Extra:


You will probably want to search 50,000 on this forum, and read all the related threads for more information, thoughts, opinions, tips, and perspectives. The KnowBrainer medium vocab definitely has it's place.

The medium vocab is not installed by default in your UniVoice 9.5 install.



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thank you for getting back to me so quickly, RockinOut,

 

I like the 50,000 word vocabulary.  I installed it.

 

Much appreciated. 



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 01/12/2008 07:18 AM
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It may not have been a good idea for me to delete the custom word list that came with UniVoice. I EDITED the posts above in BOLD.

Who knows why, and I really don't care. All I know is that now "com" is recognized right away. When I originally deleted it, it would not work right with any of my commands despite re-adding to Vocab Editor and training and retraining.

Regardless I'm still using "co" for my commands 'cause it's easier.

Also for people who have never had this feature before, the curly quotes are a nice to have pre-installed with UniVoice. It's not a big deal to do it manually, just follow the directions in KnowBrainer's Quick Tips PDF or search this site. Still nice to have though.



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How can I determine what version of UniVoice that I already have on my machine?

 

Thanks!



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Look at your serial number. If your serial number begins with 961 (46 Mb), you are using the version of UniVoice without specialty vocabularies and if your serial number begins with 962 (228 Mb), you are using the version of UniVoice with the specialty vocabularies. Our download page includes information on which download you need.

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