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Topic Title: Remove redundant lists from KB List Editor
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Created On: 07/14/2019 05:46 PM
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 Remove redundant lists from KB List Editor   - MTreloar - 07/14/2019 05:46 PM  
 Remove redundant lists from KB List Editor   - Lunis Orcutt - 07/14/2019 10:37 PM  
 Remove redundant lists from KB List Editor   - Edgar - 07/15/2019 11:34 AM  
 07/14/2019 05:46 PM
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I would like to clean up the Knowbrainer List editor. I recently installedThe latest Knowbrainer command file and imported my old custom KB commands without spending time to select them individually - just grabbed groups instead. This seems to work OK. However, there are many redundant lists in the KB List Names editor. For example, "0to9", "0to9_2", "0to9_3", that I would like to remove. How do I do this?


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The short answer is you can't at the moment. When you imported your personal commands, which include lists, KnowBrainer automatically creates backup copies like 0to9_2 but you don't need to be concerned because it's unlikely that you can overload KnowBrainer like Dragon. We have a few lists that we no longer require, like <Web> and while we could edit the KnowBrainer command collection in Notepad++ the next KnowBrainer release will be revamped and this problem will no longer exist. A new KnowBrainer command collection is released quite literally every week and sometimes every day but updating every week is completely unnecessary. For example, we just added List Bullet <dictation> and Double List Bullet <dictation>. By next weekend, we will probably automate Windows Multimedia Player but you might think of our development like the weekly Chromium Edge developments which are updated every week.


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 07/15/2019 11:34 AM
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In the long answer is…

I went over this in private with Lunis a few weeks [in 2016] ago. I came up with a solution but it is ugly. Without getting deeply into the details… KnowBrainer keeps two copies of its active command file. KnowBrainer must not be running but Dragon may be active. You must edit them both (I actually "copy with renaming":

copy "C:\Users\Edgar\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\KnowBrainerCommands\MyKBCommands.xml" "C:\Users\Edgar\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\KnowBrainerCommands\StatusChanges\MyKBCommands_withAmendedCommands.xml"

that's all one line) you would need to change "Edgar" to your username. First you need to open "C:\Users\Edgar\AppData\Roaming\KnowBrainer\KnowBrainerCommands\MyKBCommands.xml"  in your favorite XML editor (I use PSPad, Notepad will work and Visual Studio will work but might introduce automatic formatting which could break KnowBrainer's XML interpreter). Open the find dialog and search for:

<List name="1to4000

(assuming that the EXACT name of your command is <1to4000>). This list should reside on a single line since you have already deleted all the contents:

<List name="1to4000"></List>

Delete that entire line (it's okay to leave a blank line if you choose). Now save the file under its original name and location:


(again use your username). Now you need to copy that file (or re-save it with a different name if you still have your editor open); the identical file needs to be placed with a new name in a new location:


(oh yeah - did I forget to mention you must use your own username not "Edgar" <grin>).

Now you must exit Dragon (a reboot is not necessary but you might want to open the Task Manager to ensure that all of Dragon's remnants have closed; I use this batch file:

@echo off


rem taskkill /IM dgnria_nmhost.exe /F /T

taskkill /IM nsbrowse.exe /F /T

taskkill /IM dragonbar.exe /F /T

taskkill /IM dgnuiasvr.exe /F /T

taskkill /IM dgnuiasvr_x64.exe /F /T

taskkill /IM natspeak.exe /F /T

taskkill /IM ProcHandler.exe /F /T

rem taskkill /IM KBProcHandler.exe /F /T

taskkill /IM KBPro.exe /F /T

Now, start KnowBrainer which automatically starts Dragon. The list should be gone


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